Monday, August 06, 2012

IF THE SPLC IS RIGHT, THESE WERE SOME OF THE SIKH TEMPLE SHOOTER'S BANDS

I don't want to go Brian Ross on you -- I don't know that this is correct* -- but I'm seeing this at the blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center:
The man who allegedly murdered six people at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee yesterday, identified in media reports as Wade Michael Page, was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.

In 2010, Page, then the leader of the band End Apathy, gave an interview to the white supremacist website Label 56....

Page told the website that he had been a part of the white power music scene since 2000, when he left his native Colorado on a motorcycle. He attended white power concerts in Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia and Colorado. At various times, he said, he also played in the hate rock bands Youngland (2001-2003), Celtic Warrior, Radikahl, Max Resist, Intimidation One, Aggressive Force and Blue Eyed Devils....
This tweeter directs us to End Apathy's MySpace page.

I haven't seen definitive evidence that this guy, who always seems to be ID'd only as "Wade," is Wade Michael Page, the man identified as the temple shooter. But according to the interview, End Apathy shares (or shared) band members with a group called Definite Hate, including (according to this Definite Hate interview) a guitarist named Wade.

That would suggest that Wade is the guitarist on this tune -- and I don't think you'll have to click on the link to get the point:





Or maybe Wade was the bass player on that. "Wade -- bass player for Definite Hate" is listed as a onetime member of Youngland in this interview, which appears at a site titled "WAU Australia: United to Preserve the Beauty - Heritage and Culture of Our Race." ("WAU" stands for "Women for Aryan Unity.")

Let me repeat: I don't know if this is the shooter or not.

It may just be a different sick bastard named Wade.


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MORE: Whoever this Wade guy is claims to have played with a band called Max Resist. That would be this Max Resist:





Lovely.

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AND: The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel adds:
Heidi Beirich, director of the [SPLC]'s intelligence project, said her group had been tracking Page since 2000, when he tried to purchase goods from the National Alliance, a well-known hate group.

The National Alliance was led by William Pierce, who was the author of "The Turner Diaries." The book depicts a violent revolution in the United States leading to an overthrow of the federal government and, ultimately, a race war. Parts of the book were found in Timothy McVeigh's getaway car after the bombing of the federal building Oklahoma City in 1995.
SPLC was tracking him -- yeah, but heaven forbid the ATF should track someone like this, right?

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*UPDATE -- CONFIRMED: The FBI just released a photo of Wade. The FBI's guy sure looks a hell of a lot like the guy on the left in this band photo, so, yeah, it's the same guy.

7 comments:

Victor said...

Here, let me pen a tune for them:
"C'mon white people now, HATE on the brown brothers, all good white people need to come together right now...
Right now...
RIGHT NOW!"

Kind of catchy, no?

Nice tune.
But you shouldn't dance to it - since white people ain't got no rhythm.

America since the 1960's - determined to show that all of that talk about peace and love, was just a passing adolescent fad that we outgrew.

BH said...

Not that they were able to prevent this atrocity, but I have one more reason to be glad of the too-small contributions I've made to SPLC over the years.

Unfortunately, a la McVeigh at al., the MSM won't for the most part draw the connection between this killer on the one hand, and the whole hate-thy-political/cultural/religious/racial-enemy toxicity that has permeated the Right's rhetoric for decades, on the other hand. I personally think the connection is indisputable and glaringly obvious, but so what?

Steve M. said...

If you poke around at his record label, you see that he was part of a scene that has ties to all sorts of ultra-far rightists overseas (in Greece and Russia, for instance). I suspect you could play Six Degrees of Separation between Page and Pam Geller and not really need six degrees.

Stogie said...
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Stogie said...

Unfortunately, a la McVeigh at al., the MSM won't for the most part draw the connection between this killer on the one hand, and the whole hate-thy-political/cultural/religious/racial-enemy toxicity that has permeated the Right's rhetoric for decades, on the other hand. I personally think the connection is indisputable and glaringly obvious, but so what?

Quote me one toxic comment from any prominent rightist over the last decade, particularly as it relates to race. You can't, because it isn't remotely true. You lie, BH, mostly to yourself. The Left, on the other hand, is so hateful and vicious that both Malkin and Coulter wrote whole books detailing the offenders (some of whom were quite prominent in the Democrat Party) and their comments (see "Unhinged" and "Slander" respectively). Outside of the Left's extreme political hatred, your hypocrisy is mind-blowing.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you have a commenter who calls Democrats the "Democrat" Party. You've arrived!

Philo Vaihinger said...

Back when it was the latest thing in white hate literature, I ordered the Turner Diaries through a university bookstore and found it the most horrific thing I had ever seen.

The book fantasizes and advocates the global extermination of non-whites from a sort of Starship Troopers, grunt on the ground perspective, as I recall.

From the first words, the thing dripped with terrifying, unimaginable hatred.

A book for psycho devils from hell.