Thursday, August 08, 2013

OH DEAR, I'VE UPSET THE WINGNUTS

The wingers have discovered the post I wrote last night above the Phoenix anti-Obama demonstration; it's being spread on Facebook and there are dozens of new nasty comments. I'm honored....

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UPDATE: They're on Twitter, too. I'm digging the use of quote marks in this tweet:

Yeah, tell me off at my "blog"!

171 comments:

Tom Ferrio said...

keep up the good work! Thanks.

barent said...

They're so earnest on their clownish drivel.

Regular GeoX said...

It's alarming, though not even a tiny bit surprising, that so many people take pride in being a part of a howling mob.

patriot said...

The Tea Party has in reality not been a howling mob. Because we are decent, law abiding people.What you fail to understand is that it truly is a grass roots organization.. I know because I have been a part of it. We have people of different ages, sexes, race, age. This was evident in our first meeting back in 2009 with a small group of people.. What unites us is a concern for keeping the COnstitution of the US as law of the land and limiting government spending and power. Disagreeing with a person's actions and policies does not equal racism.

Regular GeoX said...

Uh huh. You're so much not a howling mob that you collectively left nearly three hundred and counting shrieky comments on the post in question. Sure--that's normal, sane behavior.

barent said...

It's funny if you read the Teabilly posts in a Small Wonder robot voice.

aimai said...

Its funny that the poster thinks that "disagreeing with a person's actions and policies does not equal racism" but I read quite a few of the 300 shrieking comments in the thread below and apparently disagreeing with a person's actions and policies does equal communism, traitorousness, islamic terrorism and a host of other badly spelled imaginary crimes.

Ten Bears said...

Bummer, the daughter-fuckers completely ignored my "fifty-three percent white dog" comment. Must have lost my touch while three months a horseback on the high desert.

I'll bet it's because I spelled out. Used proper english, punctuation, ecetera. Here, I'll try again: 53% white dog.

I know you city-folk don't have a lot of experience with these things... but the only solution to an egg-sucking dog problem is to take it out back of the barn and shoot it.

1st US Army, 7th Cavalry, 3rd Air Armored Assault. Ranger. 1971, 2 and 3. These dog-fuckers couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

No fear.

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Donna said...

How many arrests were there during the Overpasses for Obama's Impeachment protests? What violence was reported? We non only have opposing views but also a completely different set if ideals and decency. We are NOT a bunch of screeching animals, we are peaceful, respectful, and very knowledgeable of both sides of the argument, unlike many liberals who are quick to show their lack of manners and morals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RTFuIX7RhTY
OberpassesforObamasImpeachment

Regular GeoX said...

If you're not "a bunch of screeching animals," maybe you should stop screeching non-stop about things you don't understand. Just sayin'. It really doesn't help you case.

And by all means, check out the linked thread--it shows just how "peaceful, respectful, and very knowledgeable" you are.

Steve M. said...

How many arrests were there during the Overpasses for Obama's Impeachment protests? What violence was reported?

There were so few of you at every venue you couldn't manage to get in any trouble.

Joseph Nobles said...

453 comments by now, and yet the gofundme site has just now broken four digits. They sure do love the opportunity to screech at some liberals as long as it's free.

Victor said...

Jayzoos!

Steve,
Looks like you pulled up an old log in the forest, and hundreds of white slug-like things came up with it.

And yeah, no racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, projection, or a hive-like "mind" mentality, on display there in that comment thread - none...
YES THERE IS!!!
And that's about all there is.

Read your fellow commenters there, Teabaggers!
And behold, your Authoritarian, Fascist, hive-like "mind" at work.

Congratulations, Steve!
You got them to show their inner selves - hateful and fearful followers who are angry at everything.

And so much "TEH STOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!!!", on display!

It's like an all-you-can-eat Authoritarian Buffet with hundreds of dishes of stupidity, ignorance, fear and loathing, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, and homophobia, to chose from.

YUCK!!!

D Barry said...

Why did the chicken cross the road? Because it's Bush's fault and your a racist.

Dark Avenger said...

I hope you're more respectful of firearms than you are of the English language, D Barry.

Buford said...

Yo. Steve. the arrow found it's mark...can't deny the stupid, it is real, it is invasive, and and and and and repetitive...

Victor said...

Buford,
Repetitive?

The one thing you'll never find amongst the hive-minded, is an original thought or expression.

Dark Avenger said...

Here's a sampling of all those racist Tea Party signs via Google. Explain them away, flying monkeys:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Tea%20party%20racist%20signs&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=seamonkey-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Lu4EUoGkG8-GyQG8iIGIBA&biw=1280&bih=554&sei=Mu4EUseROcOcyQG4qoD4AQ

Ten Bears said...

No kidding DA. The funniest thing I've seen of late was on the back of a pickup emblazened the Bush/Cheney and Miss Me Yet bumperstickers, a small sticker smack dabon the middle that read - I shit you not - Your Stupid. Even the stauch but highly educated conservative I was riding with laughed his ass off.

boba said...

I rarely comment on blogs, my opinion is worthless and contrary to all but a few misanthropes. Nevertheless, it is obvious that many denizens of the Tea Party movement have never heard the adage:
Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue. (Proverbs 17:28)
And no, the Lincoln quote about removing doubt is dubious at best.

Buffalo Rude said...

@Steve M.: As a longtime reader and lurker... *high five* keep up the good work.

And sweet FSM the teabaggers sure are stupid.

Never Ben Better said...

*Snerk* -- HT to Peter G in a comment at PM Carpenter's blog for this trip down memory lane to the halcyon days of the John Birch Society:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG6taS9R1KM&list=PLF9D13B05C91AD752

Keep up the good work, Steve!

marindenver said...

That other comment thread is over 500 now! A few birthers in the group citing that as one of the (many) reasons Obama should be impeached. Be interesting to see how that narrative re-writes itself when (Canadian born) Ted Cruz runs for president.

Wanrog said...

Really? Hmmm ... I don't see any opposing comments here ... are you deleting them?

Aunt Snow said...

Gosh, is this why my gmail account ( which is usually only graced by missives from Bare Necessities and Amazon.com ) has been visited by raving wingnuts? Did I comment down there in that post and get some splash-back? (Must go look.)

Aunt Snow said...

Damn. You need some air freshener down there.

Steve M. said...

are you deleting them?

no. I only delete persistent trolls like Dennis.

Common Sense said...

Funny how people who have no reasonable points stoop to name calling, like a school yard bully who is not getting it his way.

Greg Upanatem said...

Funny. But no one that has ever called the tea party racist has ever given one shred of substantiated evidence to support the claim. Ever. You and your blog are irrelevant.

Omar Ronda said...

Thank you for your posts you have motivated me into opening a new tea party chapter in Puerto Rico for when we become a state we are ready to battle such slander hispanics in the tea party I guess we are white racists as well!!!!

Greg Upanatem said...

Funny. But no one that has ever called the tea party racist has ever given one shred of substantiated evidence to support the claim. Ever. You and your blog are irrelevant.

W. Hackwhacker said...

"...no reasonable points"? Hard to argue with photographic evidence, Un-common sense.

"...one shred of substantiated evidence..." See above, Greg Uphisass.

Chuck Smith said...

Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how well you play, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, relieve itself on the board and strut around like Napolean.

Phillip Mullinax said...

"Irrelevant" is the perfect word for this sycophantic blog. Continue to promote racism; it is what your king wants you to do to keep the eyes of justice, now uncovered, looking away from the tyranny of centralized power, and the traitorous actions of the Executive.

Wyatt Green said...

Wow I've never heard... well I have but it still shocks me how retarded leftwingers are... get a grip people, get off your lazy asses and quit depending on everyone else for your happiness because it's doing nothing but fucking with 56% of real Americans!

W. Hackwhacker said...

Wow. Right-winger ignorance, non sequiturs and madness on full display right here (as if more proof were needed).

kshumard said...

The Tea Party inflicted constraints on spending have had profound effect. The interest on the debt relative to revenues has dropped. The fact that the bastards have found a way to continue to spend above the debt ceiling with out House initiation should give anyone who loves America pause. Unless you don't.

Crafter2 said...

I am a bit curious as to whether or not your mom and dad know you are rambling incoherently on this blog promoting racism and anarchy, and generally making a fool of yourself? How do they feel about your behavior?

Crafter2 said...

Mr. Hackwhacker, your post is the very definition of ignorance, shall we therefore assume you be just that?

American Legion Post 108 said...

One of the things that Obama is very concerned about, by his own admission, is his legacy. During the build up to Obama Care he even public stated (more than once, in fact) that he would rather be a one-term president and get his health care package passed, than to have two terms but not accomplish his agenda.

Well, the battle for Obama Care continues. Republicans are now trying to find a way to defund the plan or to at least delay the implementation of as many pieces to the program as possible. Only time will tell how effective these strategies and tactics will be.

On the economic front, Obama’s legacy is much clearer. The data is not only compelling, it is overwhelming. Since Obama took office the economy has added seven times more part-time jobs as it has full-time jobs.

Obama goes around from place to place and speech to speech trumpeting his ‘incredible’ record on job growth and job creation and claiming all these wonderful things that his administration has done to improve the economy. Once again, the president is just wrong. Maybe it is all wishful thinking. I am sure Obama would like to think that he has really improved the economy. Possibly he is conceited enough to actually believe his own lies?

Whatever the reason is, since January 2009 the United States has added just 270,000 full time jobs. That is a net number, by the way. As sad as that number is, and less than 70,000 net jobs per year is quite sad in an economy that is supposedly ‘recovering,’ Obama has added 1.9 million part-time jobs. This is, indeed, almost 7 times more.

These statistics come right from the House Ways and Means Committee, by the way. Do these numbers seem troubling to anyone else, or is it just me? Many Republicans are arguing that one of the key reasons for this trend is due to the passage of Obama Care. There are strict provisions in this law which will slap businesses with penalties for hiring more full-time workers unless they are provided with health insurance coverage.

Obviously, no business wants to be forced into a situation where they must pay penalty, or provide expensive comprehensive insurance for each newly hired employee. It just does not make sense from a business perspective.

Maybe part of the Obama legacy is to help destroy the middle class? It certainly seems as if his policies are designed to push everyone into a situation where one job is no loner enough. Welcome to the new realities of the Obama part-time worker economy…where now you will need to hold down two or even three part-time jobs just to make the same money as from your last full-time position.

Oh, but never fear, because Obama Care will come to the rescue when you cannot find a part-time employer willing to offer you health insurance. Part-time work and single payer health care system, here we come!!

Crafter2 said...

9.6 million no longer looking for a job, (I'm thinking many of those are supporting this dismal little irrelevant blog),42 million on food stamps, (up 20 million + under this President), 14% un/underemployment, median family income down $3000+, healthcare costs nearly doubled, fuel doubled, consumer cost index out of sight.......I'm guessing these are some of the things that you little piss-ants are in support of?

Tomcatdad said...

You are the reason we join Tea Party rallies; we don't want you hate and hostility in positions of power.

Regular GeoX said...

This is REALLY hilarious: up top, we have teabaggers going on about how they're rational, courteous, knowledgable, etc. Then, below, we have more teabaggers doing their DAMNDEST--as if the previous thread wasn't proof enough--to prove that, no, actually they really ARE raving loons and how dare you say different?!? Point made!

Karen Walters Griffee said...

If it weren't so sad, it might be funny how the left-wing persons just parrot what they are told, never looking for their own answers. Right-wing persons on the other hand, do research and make intelligent decisions; not just calling names and using insults.

American said...

I'm just glad to have enough sense to be a Tea Party member.

Suzy Christiana said...

Proud TEXAS Tea Partier! I ain't skeerd of libs :)

BroadcastAir said...

The left does what the left always does: Tries to demonize, with lies, half-truths and innuendo, their political opposition. (In fact, the left, when in actual power, uses the enforcement apparatus of government to suppress their political opposition, which is why they are not fit to formulate or implement national policy. They just can't be trusted to do so.) The left routinely attacks the right and tries to stifle opposing speech. Now, when the right organizes and uses the same tactics against the left, the left cries "Foul!" and, of course, "Racism!" When the left actually uses fact, logic, history and reasoning to address problems, they won't be on the left anymore...they'll be conservatives! Emotions, feelings and theories don't solve problems, and that's all the left has ever had. That and violence, of course.

John Taylor said...

I'm curious to know a few things about the Tea Party. What is this Freedom that Obama is taking away and how is he doing that? Why are Tea Party people villifying Obama for carrying on virtually the same policies as Bush? Where was the outrage when Bush and Cheney were starting two unfunded wars? Why is it acceptable to hold the country hostage unless you get your own way? Just wondering.

W. Hackwhacker said...

Crafter2 - you must be using the wingnut dictionary for your definitions. Seeing all the frothing by your fellow nuts, it's not wonder the tea baggers are around a 20% favorability rating (and sinking).

katrina said...

Uhm, Ten Bears, did you mean "staunch"? Just checking. Oh, and the person who accused Tea Party members of being, I believe, a "howling hive" should review the old Occupy Wall Street videos before throwing stones at THAT glass house.

Katrina

Truthlogic said...

You liberals can't win in the arena of ideas,so you insult.

Rita Martin said...

I am not a Tea Party member nor am I a liberal. Do not call me a racist when I do not agree with you unless you have proof that I am a racist.

Rita Martin said...

The rudeness is embarrassing and to think you are part of the human race.
A mature person will be embarrassed concerning rudeness... guess you are not mature.

donald cassidy said...

www.commieblaster.com.

Simcha said...

Oh, so we're racist for disagreeing with the Obama administration and voicing it?

Please tell me none of the left-wing has ever held protests against or insulted President George Bush. Oh, you did? Y'all must be racist....

If we called the Obama administration a "Howling" "Screeching mob" we would get called racist, yet you would never call yourselves racist after calling us that. It would be an opinion.

People need to stop playing the racist card. The more they play it, the more hypocritical and foolish they look.

Stop playing the racism game. The only purpose it serves is to further divide races and the Citizens of the U.S., and to set strife and hatred in place.

Veteran said...

I don't waste my time with liberal, socialist, progressive and Marxist supporters. It to late for the sheep that are being led into slavery of dependence on big brother. Any response to this will tell all who your allegiances are.

Regular GeoX said...

Yeah, why would anyone possibly think teabaggers are howling, racist cretins?!? It's so unfair!

peabody nobis said...

It's funny how you Teabaggers can remember history as far back as the Founding Fathers, but you're oddly ignorant of a more recent period, the 1930's and The Great Depression.
There's a reason our grandparents had pictures of FDR on their living room walls-he saved this country with what you refer to as tax and spend policies and redistribution of wealth.
He created countless job creation programs to rebuild our infrastructure, and more importantly, put people back to work. It's what we call "stimulus" today.
But the difference today is we have an opposition party that is cowed by a loose collection of so-called "patriots", and will not allow similar much-needed programs today. Any complaints you have about the sluggish jobs production should be directed to your bathroom mirror.
And it is a well known fact that large companies are sitting on a ton of money, unwilling to use it to improve the economy by hiring more people. Yes, shocking as it may be, greed is more important to them than their fellow citizens. Gordon Gekko would be proud.
Obamacare is not the problem. It's people like you, who allow slick politicians and political operatives to mislead and lie to you about it, who are the problem. The law is not perfect, but it has many good facets that you would be aware of if you were truly informed.
And finally, let me just say that your ignorant, self-righteous rants about Obama and the government, are so un-moored from any understanding government and economics that it's frightening. Please go away, and don't come back until there's a Republican president who's starting unnecessary wars and new federal spending programs without paying for them.

jsouth said...

This is really for my fellow TEA Party compadres since I’m convinced all our comments only serve as a fly-by for this vapid troll who probably also believes that "San Diego" is Spanish for “…whale’s vagina”. Keep pounding this O2 waster as it serves to fan the flames of his ignorance and thereby allows us to control him. He’s kind of like Pavlov’s dog and we are ringing the bell. He salivates, he posts, and like an involuntary reflex continues his commitment to stupidity and we need neanderthals like this out there in the open to make us look good. As if we need any help at all, but it’s always fun to laugh at someone. Especially when they don’t understand why we’re laughing. Strength and Honor my friends!!

Dani Martin said...

Sorry dude, you won't get a nasty comment from me. The Tea Party is about making our lawmakers accountable for the money they spend. We have no hatred for you or anyone for that matter. What is it about the Constitution of the United States that offends you?

Conservative apologist said...

All you lefties on here keep saying howling mob, animals, racists etc.... Nearly every post is condescending and insulting while providing no real refutation of our arguments. You use the "you're a dummy head/meaney" stance and congratulate each other for said nonsense.
Almost all instances of racist or hateful signs have been proven to be leftist plants. Now both the right and the left have a broad spectrum of intelligence and hate.
But for every claim of of racism you screech I can give you 5 of unwashed lefties crapping on cop cars, 150 years of racism from slavery to segregation to the Uncle Tom slurs for any man of color brave enough to think for himself. In fact the Democratic Party IS AND HAS BEEN the party of racism. It was republicans walking with MLK.
So don't look down your nose and wag your finger at me berating me for my racist stance when all evidence points to you and your party as the racists.
You are in general, small minded, judgmental, and intolerant. Look at the comments in this article. 9 out of 10 from the left are petty insults full of tired cliches. 9 out of 10 "wing nut" comments are direct refutations of your assertions or in defense of your groundless and infantile attacks.

In a word pathetic...maybe pitiable.

jsouth said...

This is really for my fellow TEA Party compadres since I’m convinced all our comments only serve as a fly-by for this vapid troll who probably also believes that "San Diego" is Spanish for “…whale’s vagina”. Keep pounding this O2 waster as it serves to fan the flames of his ignorance and thereby allows us to control him. He’s kind of like Pavlov’s dog and we are ringing the bell. He salivates, he posts, and like an involuntary reflex continues his commitment to stupidity and we need neanderthals like this out there in the open to make us look good. As if we need any help at all, but it’s always fun to laugh at someone. Especially when they don’t understand why we’re laughing. Strength and Honor my friends!!

TherealCitizenGhost said...
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TherealCitizenGhost said...

It scares liberals that conservatives have surged and have a voice now and are involved, so they call us a howling mob. They decry Fox News and call it unfair that FNC exists, and yet there are a multiplicity of leftist so-called "news" outlets pumping out propaganda at a break-neck pace. They say things like "Boba" here, who was quoting scripture (Proverbs 17:28) waaaay out of context to convince us we need to keep quiet. Laughably desperate. And so foolish that he thinks we would believe he even adheres to the Word of God considering his ideology is the one that sanctions the murder of more than 3,000 babies a day. And equally foolish that he believes we'll think, "ooh, yeah, he's right; we better remain silent and let them keep lying and not call them out on their falseness and propaganda". Pfft, please. But the real cool thing is how they are the ones out there screaming and pointing their fingers and crying RACIST!! at everything that moves. Even to the point that they ignore the fact that many of the founders of local Tea Party chapters are Black and Hispanic that there are thousands of Black and Hispanic conservatives. Their truest and most horrifying nightmare is the fact that the number of Black and Hispanic conservatives in America is growing exponentially (One reason why Dems are desperately trying to pass amnesty) and the only recourse they have, not surprisingly, is to say Republicans and Tea Partiers are "using" Blacks and Hispanics as a front to cover for their racism. In saying this, the liberals who fancy themselves smarter than conservatives are showing that they are not only colossally ignorant but that they are the true racists because they believe minorities are not capable of avoiding being "used" and do not have the mental capacity and fortitude to make their own choices about what they believe. Here is a list of a mere few names you libnuts can look up. (Not that you will, since truth and facts burn you like sunlight burns vampires) but in the event you find backbone, assuming you have one, and want to look up these names, (DO NOT use Wikipedia, as they have excluded critical information. Find a more reliable source) and just notice their political affiliations, education level, their ACCOMPLISHMENTS and for those still living, their current station in life and then keep believing minorities lack the capacity to choose for themselves. Wow, kind of blasts your pathetically ignorant theories into a million tiny pieces, huh?
_Nigel Innis
_Norris Wright Cuney
_Frederick Douglass
_Sojourner Truth
_Martin Luther King, Jr
_Condoleezza Rice
_Clarence Thomas
_Michael Steele
_Angela McGlowan
_David Webb
_Dale Wainwright
_Allen West
_Janice Rogers Brown
_Octavius Valentine Catto
_Herman Cain
_Deneen Borelli
Again, that's a few, there are thousands and thousands more....
So liberals, Look into the eyes of Truth and despair!

IhateKoolAid said...

Thought I would stop in and invite you all the the TeaParty. Would recommend that you prepare for it by breathing pure oxygen for several weeks, dump out your Kool-Aid, giving your unicorns to some little girls, and by all means, exercise your brains before you get here; we don't want any of you to sound stupid.

Have a great day!!!!

Len Hapensance said...

What a bunch of bobble-heads here.

Suzette Niles said...

I am proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. I won't forget the men who died. So Tea is the party for me.

I would proudly stand up and defend her still today. There aint no doubt I love this Land.... God Bless the tea party.

Theresa Snipes said...

https://www.facebook.com/terry.snipes.1#!/tiltright

Cathy said...

The wingnuts are not upset; they are trying to educate you. You should feel honored. What’s the definition of a wingnut, someone who presents facts instead of insults? Although they are creative and snarky, which is cool, it’s still just an insult. We are called racist because we voted for party ideas and NOT by race, somebody needs a dictionary, my attempt at snarkyness, I know it pales.

scottrosco said...

Not a tea party member, but I sure do agree with them more than I do the liberal wackos that are increasingly running/ruining this country. Disagreeing with principles and/or ideologies does not make me a racist. Believing people should be afforded preferential treatment because of the color of his or her skin is racist. Now, which side believes that? I think it's clear who the real racists are. And it's not the Tea Party.

Kevorkian said...

You know this country is in serious trouble when a party that stands for personal rights, smaller government and less spending by our government is called radical.
You KNOW this country is in even more trouble when people like Al Sharpton can freely call anyone a racist and the mindless masses take it as gospel.

spooky said...

Your Site Only Proves there are to many Sheeples still in this country....

Molon Labe said...

Hilariously ironic, I love the fake books you have as a background on your page. I bet that's where all your knowledge comes from for the basis of your liberal opinions.

Sugarbear said...

To call the TeaParty movement anything but an honest, mature, concerned, well-intentioned grassroots phenomenom is totally irrational and unreasonable. In the words of one of your own, "You can't handle the truth!"
You liberals are no better than those 3 thugs in Florida who ganged up on 1 helpless 13-year-old boy because he did the right thing. You don't have a sense of fair play. You blow hard in groups so someone will not smack your teeth out. One on one, you are silly, small-minded wimps and bullies. Real men are first honest with themselves.

Mark Woodhull said...

Tea Party insignificant? Hah! We are legion..... :-)

Victor said...

ROFLMAO!!!

You Reich-Wingers certainly have prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're part of a hive-mentality!

You attack in droves, just like wasps and bee's.
Some 'king' or 'queen' bee points the way, and you mindlessly attack - with old talking points, and tired meme's.

Keep it up!

You just reaffirmed what any sentient human knows - Authoritarians will follow where led, and attack where directed.

Keep up the good work, Reichies!

I'm sure in a day or two, you'll be pointed to some other blog, to attack.

"MORANS!!!"

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Victor said...

Mark,
More like, you are "lesions!"

Or, festering pustules on the anus of humanity!

LOL!!!

Cathy said...

Obama, Sharpton, and Jackson have set race relations back 50 years.
MLK was a Republican.

Cajun Shooter said...

The Tea party is the only hope to save this country from total destruction. If you love your country, you would support a return to supporting our constitution and capitalism. Socialism has failed everywhere!

Cajun Shooter said...

PS: liberals are mental midgets incapable of rational thought.

SoCal Desert Lion said...

Liberals are hypocrites. The women are more masculine than the men, and the men are more feminine than the women.

TeaParty4u said...

Hello....say what you will, however, my g g g g g g g grandfather was with George Washington at Valley Forge. We were here when y'all got off the boat. This country was founded on God , Guns and Country! Not Obama phones, lying, Benghazi, Hillary with all the bad men she has to defend (McDougall, Slick Willy and Barrack>. We are tea party members because as crackers in my case native...we are sick of this race bating, spendaholic, socialist person running us into the ground and trying to create a new world order. He never ran a kool aid stand or had a real job and through grifter and voter fraud..here he is...worse President ever. Time for us to wake y'all up and get er did before its too late. Don't tread on me!

michaeljb said...

Absolutely Katrina! The Liberal-mind is VERY fast to forget, but very quick to repeat their mistakes and call it "progress."

Liberal ideology is to marginalize, polarize and attack. It is their "mantra" so-to-speak.

Where they lack in facts and truth, they make-up for with sheer numbers and insults.

bob preston said...

1971? You were part of the great retreat? Im impressed.

Crafter2 said...

Victor, so did you take your toys and storm off home or what? You sound a tad like a three year old having a temper tantrum?

polly said...

Patriots see the problems when everyone else wants to push them under the rug. It doesn't matter if you are demo or repub, white or black, it matters that our president and his cronies are ruining our country, our rights and you will be sorry when the shit hits the fan but it will be too late, for you as well as everyone else. You need to open your eyes and stand against his bad policies, his lies, his giving our money to countries who hate all of us without our consent. nobama has declared war on the American people and you people are just confused Americans but you will be subject to all the bad that is coming. Better think about that....Your kids, your grandkids etc...

bob preston said...

Where were you chauffering the conservative too?

bob preston said...

Fdr used a war to rebuild the ecomomy. He Knew Pearl Harbor would be attacked and let it happen.

Simcha said...

You may say we use "old points", but we're still using the old points because you have yet to refute them.

BigLou said...

Victor, you really shouldn't type when you're on your meds, because you sound more like an asshole, Now Vic, can I call you that? Well it's better than what your boyfriend calls you, what's he call you? Oh that's right! Hey Bitch! I am not a Tea party member but I am an American who doesn't like that Traitor,that's living in my White House, I will refer to him as Obastard from now on, now Vicky, where are you from? You don't speak English! Do you have trouble typing with your boyfriends dick in your mouth? Do yourself a favor Vicky and let the adults talk now!

bob preston said...

Sounds like words to guide you

bob preston said...

The presidency graded on a curve to push him along...)

Cathy said...

"By 1940, the percentage of Americans without jobs remained in double digits and the American people lacked the purchasing power to jump start the economy. Only American entry into World War II ended this torpor."

BigLou said...

Hey Victor,as a special favor to you, I will continue to leave posts here,flooding your box just to break your "balls" if you have any! Obastard is nothing but a lying illegal alien Muslim piece of shit! He has given money and weapons to the Muslim brotherhood, that makes him a Traitor, which means he has committed High Treason and Crimes against the Constitution, do you know what the punishment for High Treason is .....it's Death!! By Hanging or Firing squad! Obastard will look good crying like a little baby, before the trapdoor opens! LMFAO

DJ said...

Everyone please think for yourselves. Vote for best person for the job not the most popular.
Mr. Obama was black in 2008 when I voted for him was I a racist then, am I a racist now just because I do not like his policies.

Cathy said...

despite a number of benefits accrued from the New Deal, still received far fewer of those benefits than white males and, partly as a result, remained at the bottom of the American economic ladder. The New Deal, moreover, did nothing to ensure that rights guaranteed to all Americans via the Constitution, such as the right to vote and the right to a fair trial, were guaranteed to blacks.

bob preston said...

its a voice heard often in the liberal ranks.

IBAMERICAN said...

Wow! This is by far the most fucked up group I have come across yet? I just can't figure out how the American people have let themselves become so polarized. You all sound like a bunch of snot-nosed brats at a daycare center fighting over the Hippity Hop. The first thing you all need to ask yourself is "do I love my country"? If the answer is yes, then start acting like it and work together to find a solution to the disaster that is our government today. Neither party has the answer alone; it will take ALL of us, sharing ideas to get back where we started because, that IS where we started. Sharing, working together, finding solutions, inventing and innovating. If you answer yourself with "I don't care about this country", then get the FUCK out of here and let us Americans do what needs to be done.

Victor said...

BigLou,
I'm sorry, but I won't be your beyotch - NTTAWWT!

I'm not gay.

Though, base on your homophobic comment, you may have some latency problems you may want to have a therapist check!

LOL!!!

Every time you "morans" try to prove how straight, non-racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, or homophobic you are, THE MORE YOU PROVE IT, "MORANS!!!!"

HOLY SHIT - READ YOUR OWN, AND YOUR COHORTS COMMENTS!

AH, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

The "Cognitive Dissonant, Conservative, Hive-mind, in action!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Victor said...

Hey, BigLou,

Oh, please do keep commenting here.

I haven't seen too many "people" as brain-dead and moronically f*cking stupid, as you!!!!!

And one who repeats his master's talking points and meme's, with quite the moronic aplomb, you do!!!!!!!!!!

YOU'RE A F*CKING LAUGH RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW - Steve M., thanks you for showing up, making his day(s)!!!!!

In the words of that great American philosopher:
'What a dope!
WHAT A MAROON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Keep 'em comin', BigLou, I need the laughs!!!!!!!!

Edward Mobley said...

I don't need to be racist, or xenophobic, or homophobic, or anything to not happen to agree with you politically. That is just goofy.

Victor said...

Just in case you're even more f*cking stupid than I think - I'm MOCKING YOU, BigLou!

MOCKING!!!
Normally, I wouldn't mock the intellectually and mentally challenged, but I'll make an exception in your case.

MMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!!

Now, you ignorant and stupid MFer, whatcha gonna do about it, you ignorant and stupid MFing asshole?!?!?!?!?!?!
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKing, YOU!!!!!

Victor said...

Have a nice evening, BigLou.

Rick Newsome said...

We are all individuals viewing the world through our own little window. We all seem to believe we are superior to others because our worldview has to be correct and every one else's is inherently flawed because our views are different. Our country is a house divided, it always has been to one degree or another. It probably always will be. Change brings conflict and the world I see constantly changes. We could all try to make it a little better for ourselves, our families and our communities and just maybe we could hopefully pass on a better world for the generations to follow. We are all fallible and I believe the more entrenched and unyielding your beliefs are about "other people" the more likely you are to have a much more distorted view of the actual people and world we all live in. A belief which might have accurately described some "person" yesterday may no longer be true of that person today. Some truths could be inherently true each and every day, I believe we should, and could, treat others as we would like to be treated and if we all did so we could STOP THE HATE. I would be characterized as very conservative in some areas of my life and very liberal in others. What am I left nut, right nut, I don't even know. BUT, IT is so easy to label, demonize, dehumanize and hate though, isn't it? Somehow hating brings a sense of superiority to us, empowers us, defines us? Doesn't our "NEWS" media foster and feed from the hate it evokes from us? Stop feeding into it, stop labeling others, stop hating. Humble advice from someone who has been humbled by life and his own poor choices.

Rand Careaga said...

Victor:

The caps lock is unworthy of you. Really, BigLou's last comment stood as an eloquent and damning refutation of itself. Mimicry simply reinforces their belief that poo-flinging constitutes discourse. If you must engage them (I suspect that they're drifting off in search of another shiny object by now), I think a terse contempt works better.

Willy Nilly said...

The fact is we need a party, candidate, congress, senate; who am I kidding what we need is an entirely new administration who actually gives a damn about this country and the people in it. Not their own left or right wing agenda. Don’t try to act like it isn’t true either. If you really gave a damn about this country you would start showing it. I am talking to you and the tea party and the average idiot on the street. If we ALL start doing what is best for this country and the people in it and stop being a bunch of idiots, the country will heal itself. Sorry if I sound a little simplistic but it is that simple. Start by getting rid of “reality television” and get some meaningful content back on the airwaves instead of pandering to the mindless morons who think life is about being a stupid fucking housewife of whatever damn city. Tell the damn Kardashians to pound sand. Better yet pick up a damn book and read something interesting.
Get off that damn couch and go get a job. I don’t care what kind it is, get a job and do your best. Bring business back to THIS country and stop regulating it away so everyone can make money and we can go back to having FULL TIME jobs. Not cutting hours to get out of paying benefits. RUN this country properly and tell EVERYONE they have to do their part. We will help those who need it but if you are looking for a free ride go somewhere else. Stop rewarding laziness and irresponsibility. STOP IT! First and foremost however STOP sending our money to other countries. If you don’t have enough money in your personal budget to help a friend or family member do you help them? Or do you tell them I am sorry but if I must keep my family afloat or no one will have anything? It is that simple if you run us into the ground we will be able to help NO ONE. Stop being a bunch of whiny little babies and get to work and fix this country. Stop bitching about what the other is not doing. Make them help you or push them aside and give them nothing.

Willy Rho said...

There should be a lottery to see who gets to "Spring" Obama's Trapdoor. It could make Billions.

peabody nobis said...

Only a couple of you actually engaged the topic of the post. The rest just continued with their nonsensical rants about Constitution!Big Government!Tyranny!
The truth is, the government is no different under Obama than it has been under any other president. There's no way one man could turn this into a socialist country. Just because you suddenly woke up in 2009 and saw that the government spent a lot of money doesn't mean that it hasn't been going on for decades.
And I never called you racist. God only knows why you suddenly started caring about government spending or how many times Obama uses Air Force One or how many vacations he and his family take. I only know that I don't recall any president in history that has been questioned about the use of Air Force One.
The debt ceiling fight is the ultimate in hypocrisy; Republican lawmakers pass bills to spend money throughout the session, and when it comes time to pay for it, they're like that friend you take out to dinner, and when the bill comes he says, "Oh, sorry, bro, I forgot my wallet." People who don't pay their bills should be held accountable, don't you agree?
And please educate yourselves about the differences between the government budget and a household budget.
Stop wasting your time and money on Tea Party misinformation and invest instead in some classes in History and Economics. You might be surprised what you learn.

Willy Nilly said...


@ IBAMERICAN,
GREAT JOB!! You did it quite succinctly as well. Perhaps there is hope for this country and world of ours. Thanks for interjecting a little common sense. I hope they listen.
Willy NIlly

SouthLand said...

It's Ironic that you mention the Founding Fathers. And claim the very concepts, principal's and moral values they built this Country on are somehow your basis. Without fact to back it up. And abruptly move to FDR as if he was a Founding Father.
Who's history are you refering to? What history class were you in? Sad. ADD?

The Founding Fathers and what they created are the basis for The Tea Party. You directly move to FDR and how you believe He alone brought this Country out of The Depression. Far from the truth.

WWII is what put this Country on the path to recovery as well as bringing the people together for one common good.

Now we have a a very poor economic outlook as if it were 1933 and The New Deal and things are lookin up for the USA well it's now 1939 and it not much better economics. Hitler is rounding up The Jews we know and are not providing support.

Next it's 1941 and there is much disagreement in The House about what do. Finally the People begin to speak up and we do the right thing.

Well people that's where we are its 1938 and we will be going to war soon. However, this time it will be right here, with each other.

That's the only reason to have billions of rounds of ammo and 2700 tanks dedicated to The USA.

Raymond Blacketer said...

Einstien commenting on the Leftest philosophy: "The danger is characterised as Hitlerism, Militarism, and Communism which, while indicating different conditions, all lead to the subjugation and enslavement of the individual by the State, and bring tolerance and personal liberty to an end ... If we want to resist the powers which threaten to suppress intellectual and individual freedom, we must keep clearly before us what is at stake. Without such freedom there would have been no Shakespeare, no Goethe, no Faraday, no Pasteur, no Lister. There would be no comfortable houses^ for the people, no railways, no wireless, no protection against epidemics, no cheap books, no culture, no enjoyment of art for all. Only men who are free can create the works which make life worth living."

Retired Traveling Reflecting said...

The Tea Party is a group of individuals who wish to see American fundamentals remain in tact. Obama is a man set on the destruction of all things American. Even the Blacks are starting to see what a fraud he is. See my Hub Pages
http://willrodgers.hubpages.com/hub/Are-Blacks-now-starting-to-understand-how-Obama-has-used-them
I list many of the Black groups who oppose Obama. They have been silenced. On July 15, 2013 B.A.L.A. Marched on Washington to oppose Obama's Amnesty Plan. Their Leader Ms. Durant appeared on O'Reilly the day before to promote the Protest. Twitter shut down her account so she and her other Black followers could not get out the word about the protest. Now that's illegal and Racist, and it was done by Obama's minions. So you see the Democrats started segregation, promoted and formed the KKK. Lincoln and MLK were Republicans who like the Tea Party were strong supporters of Freedom for all peoples.

Cathy said...

Peabody, genius dog, we woke up we because we lost our jobs. Health care wasn’t an issue because we were covered by our “greedy” private sector employers. It’s a very general thing to say the government spends a lot of money. The specific response is 5.9 trillion $$$. And yes the topic everyone veered from was, yes you did unfoundedly call us racists. And, sorry to hear your friend is a douche. We are smart enough to know that you can’t have more people on assistance and government employees than you have tax payers. We don’t have to get a government student loan to figure that out. Student loans are the next bubble to burst. You used to be able to pay your way through college until the government got involved, now tuition is so high it’s impossible. It’s called what the market will bear. Your portion that you pay is still the same, but now you have a government loan to pay back also. See sentence one to see why this could be a big problem.

Mike & Alicia Miller said...

The pendulum will eventually swing so far to the left that you will then find yourself on the right. Case in point is Matt Damon. Along with the unions who don't want ObamaCare. Strange how "enemies" become cohorts and fight together.

Tess41 said...

Lots of sick people here tonight. All from the left, imagine that!

Guy Pascua said...

Instead of telling you off, I'd rather meet you face-to-face and explain why this Hawaiian believes Obama is a fraud. Personally, impeaching Obama means Biden takes over. That is worse.

Joe Senter said...

You're really not needed, you know. Mr. Obama has enough lap dogs as it is. http://hyperhypocrisy.blogspot.com/

David Madison said...

The Tea Party lives!

My mom comes from colonial stock that traces its roots to the Mayflower. My dad's side traces its roots to Native North American Black Foot Indian stock.

What "racist"?

Dark Avenger said...

Well, ones' ancestry has no protective effect against whether or not one espouses racism.

OTOH, if we need breeding stock, I guess the above makes you good to go, Mr. Madison.

Rick said...

Have you ever stopped to think.....

Which party would lose out if there was no oppressed minority?

So who's keeping people down? Why?

Ken Heise said...

If there is a nasty comment here claiming to being from the tea party movement, it is posted by you or your ilk as the tea party is so far above your understanding of this country and our Constitution that you could not possibly understand it. It does not take education to understand the Constitution, it takes common sense, which you totally lack! Truth is not nasty except maybe to you!

Regular GeoX said...

If there is a nasty comment here claiming to being from the tea party movement, it is posted by you or your ilk

Shit, so you're saying ALL the supposed teabagger commenters here are liberal plants, yourself included? Intriguing concept, I must admit.

Regular GeoX said...

...unless that comment was meant as parody. There is genuinely no way to tell.

Ken Heise said...

To the uninformed person who complained about corporations holding cash, what else can they do with a loose cannon in the White House and leading the Senate? They don't know what new tax, or new regulation will come next. If they don't survive, their thousands of employees will be out of work and have to become Democrats to get on the dole and become lifetime leftwingnuts or communists, whatever it takes to stay alive!

David Decoteau said...

You need to thank the Tea Party. Without them, you'd still be in complete obscurity. I'm guessing your page traffic has probably increase 50X.

Oh well Tea Party and "Nice Guy", keep looking for ways to categorize people into collections in order to make yourselves feel superior to each other. For me, I'll just keep on just seeing individual people, as people.

Enjoy your war.

joe said...

one question to all the liberal progressives.

Where will you go when you have destroyed the only truly free civilization on earth?

You want every aspect of peoples lives handled by the Government.

You want government controlled health care.

you want government to pay your bills.

you want government to raise your children.

you want government to decide your education.

you want government in your work place.

you want government in churches.

you want government in farming and food markets.

you want government in your home.

there is fewer liberal progressives than conservatives. So since you want all this government, how about we give you the West Coast, The New England States and Illinois. we'll take the rest, along with our constitution, our bill of rights, all of our conservative military and the likes, you don't bother us, we want bother you. we do what we want and keep a small government and strong military, you do what you want and keep a excessively large government and small military, let your government pay for everything right down to your canned biscuits. The one thing though, which ever country fails,they cannot return to the other. Just remember, according to your own philosophy about conservatives, this would mean all those evil rich people would be here with us, just keep that in mind. But you decide.

peabody nobis said...

There's no hope for you guys. If Obama came out tomorrow and decreed that the sky was blue, you would say, no, it's bluish, with a gray tint.
And regulations are bad things? Tell that to the families of the people who died in that explosion in Texas a few months ago. A business has an obligation to provide a safe workplace for it's employees. Is that really a point in question in 2013? Are we supposed to be so grateful to have a job that we accept dangerous work conditions?
And I'm SO tired of hearing all you Teabag experts explain to us what the Founding Fathers would do. You have no fucking idea what they would do in the year 2013. Their world was light years from the one we live in. I would pay good money to see Thomas Jefferson tell you all that you're full of shit, and that you're hurting the country.
You know nothing about the way government works, and you should get out of the way and let the people who do, do their jobs.

Rand Careaga said...

The inchoate, sub literate, ill-reasoned comments of the TeaPartisans are in aggregate sufficiently eloquent against their premises that I am not in the slightest inclined to refute them. I do come to believe, though, that these people are being fitted for brown shirts, and that we are heading for Bosnia on a continental scale. As I'm fond of telling my European friends, "We Americans are a simple, generous, impulsive, heavily armed people."

liz harris said...

This is not my blog so I cannot fully develop this idea. I can tell you, however, that as someone who once voted for a democratic candidate in college, I can understand the allure of liberal ideology. In a word, it is utopian. It's how we wish the world would be. The only hitch is that all the wonderful ideas usually don't pan out too well in practice, either due to politicians' avarice, the impracticality of these seemingly perfect measures/ideas, or just simply because there are way too many special interests to satisfy in this mottled quilt that is our beloved country. I recently wrote a paper about affirmative action in public administration and how showing favoritism/inclusion to a segment of society logically leads to the exclusion of other members of the same society. Affirmative action, a measure meant to eradicate discrimination, only led to increased discrimination, in spite of its lofty goal.

My friend in college used to say that the Democratic party is the party of dreamers, the party we join when we turn eighteen and believe in the beautiful ideas that our professors spout at us in lecture halls. And then we graduate and encounter the real world: applying for internships and jobs, our educational loans amassing interest and bills piling up at our doors (or, in this economy, at the door of our parents). All those once utopian ideas we argued about in college coffee houses till we were blue in the face began to wilt because they could not keep us afloat during our financial hardships.

Today, I'm older, more shrewd, and more bitter than the espresso I used to swill in college because I look back at who I was in college and have to ruefully shake my head at the capriciousness and naivete of youth. I was utterly convinced that it would be a good idea to vote for someone who, for all intents and purposes, was blowing bubbles at the lectern during presidential debates (instead of tackling icky issues, like national security and the burgeoning debt owed to China). Does my embittered attitude and white hair make me a Republican now? Maybe not. But I have learned to respect the pragmatism of conservative ideology because it is backed by solid evidence and hardheaded logic. There is no emotionality, whims, or fancy. I liken my shift in political leanings to switching college majors: from humanities to a science or math major. The flowery humanities major will land you a job as a Starbucks barista dependent on welfare and the kindness of others (or hopelessly unable to even fathom how to begin life with someone without being crushed by all the pressures of money), while the science or math major will enable you to earn a real full time job that you can support a family with and be utterly self-sufficient.

Jim Johnson said...

The Gettysburg Address
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863
On June 1, 1865, Senator Charles Sumner commented on what is now considered the most famous speech by President Abraham Lincoln. In his eulogy on the slain president, he called it a "monumental act." He said Lincoln was mistaken that "the world will little note, nor long remember what we say here." Rather, the Bostonian remarked, "The world noted at once what he said, and will never cease to remember it. The battle itself was less important than the speech."

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."- Abraham Lincoln

Jim Johnson said...

The Gettysburg Address
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863
On June 1, 1865, Senator Charles Sumner commented on what is now considered the most famous speech by President Abraham Lincoln. In his eulogy on the slain president, he called it a "monumental act." He said Lincoln was mistaken that "the world will little note, nor long remember what we say here." Rather, the Bostonian remarked, "The world noted at once what he said, and will never cease to remember it. The battle itself was less important than the speech."

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."- Abraham Lincoln

joe said...

peabody nobis said...
There's no hope for you guys. If Obama came out tomorrow and decreed that the sky was blue, you would say, no, it's bluish, with a gray tint.
And regulations are bad things? Tell that to the families of the people who died in that explosion in Texas a few months ago. A business has an obligation to provide a safe workplace for it's employees. Is that really a point in question in 2013? Are we supposed to be so grateful to have a job that we accept dangerous work conditions?
And I'm SO tired of hearing all you Teabag experts explain to us what the Founding Fathers would do. You have no fucking idea what they would do in the year 2013. Their world was light years from the one we live in. I would pay good money to see Thomas Jefferson tell you all that you're full of shit, and that you're hurting the country.
You know nothing about the way government works, and you should get out of the way and let the people who do, do their jobs.

That is exactly what the ENTIRE LEFT, LIBERAL, PROGRESSIVE SIDE WANTS.

They want America to step aside and let them run the country in the ground. They do not care what the founding fathers said, nor do they care that this is a REPUBLIC! They just want YOU! AMERICA! out of the way. You heard it straight from the mouth of the fool.
If you peabody nobis had any idea about government you would not have opened your mouth and inserted your foot. We live in a place called the United States of America, founded on the principles of limited government, for the people by the people. It is a REPUBLIC! in a Republic form of government the people vote for a representative to represent them in the government. Doing so allows the people the SAY as TO WHAT WHEN WHERE AND HOW THE GOVERNMENT IS RUN.
As far as your comment about regulations, sure we need a few, but for the most part we do not need every little thing regulated.
Your very first statement is exactly how you see Obama, and it shows how you want things to be, you said he ..."Decreed..." as if he where king,(no, king and president are not the same)you want a dictatorship (that means that one person controls everything in the government and allows certain people the authority to do certain task). getting you mad is easy, and just let you put your foot right in there between those government teeth.

David said...

I see the left wing crowd enjoys using the word 'screeching' when referring to those who disagree. I don't see much of that. In reality, the Tea Party folks are made up of ordinary people who clean up after themselves, but who are quite passionate about the country they love. In fact, they're willing to fight for her - but hope they don't have to. But if necessary - we will.

Abanterer said...

Liz Harris:
I have a great deal of sympathy. At times, I have issues with my own party over the odd utopian ideal. But, I finished my college degree in physics, and if anything, my science background has led me to be more liberal not less.

I listen to the conservative media, and the tea partiers and their pols, and it simply saddens me that they seem to hate half of this nation so much. How many comments in this and the other thread end with 'and you;ll get yours some day liberal scum!'?

How many times do I hear anti-scientific nonsense creep out, like global warming denial and creationist science?

How many times will conservative simply declare the poor of the nation beyond help and demand the ladders be pulled up lest the Red Death come in?

I will likely always be a liberal, because to be a conservative in this day and age means to embrace a smaller America, a meaner world, one where we give up on anything except warmed over Ayn Rand and Apocalyptic Ecstacy.

Voraluk Maneedool said...

What confuses me is why people want to change a proven methodology. Our forefathers (all much more highly educated and intelligent than our current leaders) figured out a great form of government. And the conservatives want to keep that form of government and the liberals want to change it. Why? It's been shown that socialism and libertarianism are failures every time they have been tried. So what makes them think that our system needs to change towards failed systems? Very ignorant.

Abanterer said...

Voraluk: To be fair, the Founders had included the institution of slavery in that form or government, as well as voting privileges for monied landowners. And the first time around, with the Articles of Confederation, it fell apart and had to be redone.

Now, if the goal o conservatism is to roll things back to the time where we had no standing army, no infrastructure, and universal suffrage was unheard of, then I would like to hear them SAY that, and run on it, rather than say they are for freedom and liberty, and neglect to add the footnote 'Your Mileage May Vary."

MildredtheManeater said...

Abanterer: Your argument is unfair. We had no standing army at the time of the Founders because they were militia and scrounged-up volunteers. And the infrastructure was on it's way to being well developed after the Articles were revised into the Amendments. Our current government is full of corrupt politicians, a failing healthcare system, and a military that is being downsized. That sounds like a downhill slope to me. At least during the early years of the U.S. there was some actual forward progression. Liberal politics are causing this nation to fail RIGHT NOW in the Capitol, in America, and her interests abroad. The Hope and Change was supposed to be here 2 years ago, but I can't seem to find any. Is there any in Liberal Detroit? No. They were fooled.

54c02ef2-018e-11e3-89df-000f20980440 said...

Why would you even begin to think that I am upset by a left wing asshole with his head so far up his ass he needs to see a dentist to get his hair cut? We know how much you hate liberty and freedom, and how much you worship big government and having someone tell you how to live your life. So, let's just leave it at that.

f4cf511a-01b2-11e3-9796-000f20980440 said...

Voraluk: Where is your evidence of anyone in the party you don't like trying to "change the form of government?" I assume you're opposed to the Affordable Care Act, is there something in the Constitution of this country that explicitly says there shouldn't be universal health care in the United States? I do believe the Supreme Court would disagree if you said no.

Furthermore, even presuming one-half of your argument is correct, for the benefit of the doubt, your other half is demonstrably false, the Tea Party does want to change the form of government in the United States:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/tea-party-call-to-repeal-the-17th-amendment-causing-problems-for-gop-candidates.php

Im.HeartGem said...

First, I think you are confusing the Tea Party with that Occupy mob. Second, you don't even know me so there is no reason for you to throw insults at me. It's not me who is being extremely rude and crude!

Cathy said...

Abanterer, its called climate change now instead of global warming, that way the grant receiving scientist are covered either way.

W. Hackwhacker said...

Steve - I think we can fairly conclude from all of the above that the fever hasn't broken yet. I have yet to glean from any of their rantings what freedoms, liberties, etc., they've really lost, as opposed to what's going on in their vivid imaginations.

Cathy said...

Conservatives don’t want to squash the poor. We want them to have jobs, and the dignity that comes with having a job. I think they want that too, not your table scraps.

Cathy said...

You want what happened to Detroit to happen to the entire country and call yourselves humanitarians.

Rick, I wish you would shout this from the roof tops instead of being buried in this stupid (but entertaining) blog:

“Have you ever stopped to think.....

Which party would lose out if there was no oppressed minority?

So who's keeping people down? Why? “

Thomas Marotta said...

America has accomplished more in 225 years than most empires of the world. And the reason is because most people are honest and motivated. We are a group of people that hold the U.S. Constitution in the highest regard because it protects all men and women from tyrannical government officials whom think they know best for America. And all they really care about is their political career's. If you are not one of the people that love this country and what we stand for your probably standing their with your hands out waiting for the next thing you can get from our corrupt government.

ullh82w8 said...

I'm so happy that EVERYONE in America has the right to their opinions. I just don't understand how they think they have the right to remove my freedoms and expect that they should have their freedoms? God bless you all. Just please stop attacking my freedoms. Give up your freedoms if you want, PLEASE LEAVE MINE ALONE!

boba said...

Thomas M. in regards to accomplishments, you may wish to look up Pax Romana it might give you a clue. And when I wrote that for some the best course of action was remain silent as to appear wise, it is obvious the fools failed to heed that advice.

Borderline said...

Question to liberals: If we Tea Party types allow our beloved 2nd Amendment right to be taken away by the government, just how long do you think the government will let you liberal types keep your beloved 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment rights? You liberals are gullible enough to trust the government? You will lose your freedoms in short order and if you complain, you will lose your life.

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kestrel28 said...

sigh...this thread is proof that our education system has been in the shitter since the 1950s.

Regular GeoX said...

If we Tea Party types allow our beloved 2nd Amendment right to be taken away by the government, just how long do you think the government will let you liberal types keep your beloved 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment rights?

You rarely hear teabagger-types so openly admit that they actually don't give a shit about the Constitution beyond just the one amendment. Well done.

ObamaXFiles said...

Soon the phony president will be retired in Chicago, having outlasted his Obama Care law. Can't you see it? Crawling under the bed w/his wife and little girls, dodging crips and bloods bullets while his fellow "brothers" gleefully eliminate their racial future.
Between the self-loathing, abortion rate and the murder rate the African-American population of the U.S. will be consigned to the putrid garbage bin of hisory in 3 generations represnting 4% or less of the population. What does our phony president say or do about his "brothers" ?
Nothing.
Golly, he won't even help his Kenyan half brother put a new roof on his cardboard shack LOL ! Gosh, he did stay the deportation of his illegal alien kin that he otherwise ignores.
Real family man, huh ?

Regular GeoX said...

Well, the important thing is, you've proven you're NOT RACIST!

Cathy said...

Boba, thanks for the nugget. I’m still good with the contemporary Constitution of the United States, but nice nugget on an otherwise meatless sandwich.

David Waymire said...

That's right. We want our country back

David Waymire said...

That's right. We want our country back

Abanterer said...

It's not just your country - we all live here. We disagree on things, true, but it's our nation, plural.

The normal thing to do, when people disagree, it to debate, and come to a compromise and an understanding, and not intimidate the other side with dire consequences. We may not like the final decision, but at least there's something to work with.

The modern GOP is having none of that. The Democrats repeatedly tried to reach out to your side, and time and again we were shouted down, called treasonous, and occasionally injured, hounded, or even shot.

Look at this thread and glance through the others - how many end in threats, or declarations of some day when we're gonna get ours? Not all, certainly, but more than a few.

I can't support the GOP, as long as they let bullies and creeps run rampant.

kestrel28 said...

amen Abanterer. Mob rule mentality like the backwoods fucks in to kill a mockingbird or In the heat of the night only this ain't the 60s. shoot first then accuse your dissenter with aggravated assault.

but mom he staryed it...mentality...

this is hardly anything new...john adams was scorned and heckled by fellow pols read the book john adams by David Mccullough.

kestrel28 said...

amen Abanterer. Mob rule mentality like the backwoods fucks in to kill a mockingbird or In the heat of the night only this ain't the 60s. shoot first then accuse your dissenter with aggravated assault.

but mom he staryed it...mentality...

this is hardly anything new...john adams was scorned and heckled by fellow pols read the book john adams by David Mccullough.

Cathy said...

You can’t spend money on doggie helicopter rides in this economy and not expect people to get upset. If we were working full time, we wouldn’t notice.

Abanterer said...

The economy is in a slump because of the Sequester, and the Mortgage Bubble. The Latter is caused by the policies of the prior administration, and the Former was caused when the GOP started holding the economy hostage, something we will likely see again. Austerity economics is great if you were already set for life, not so much if you work for a living.

Cathy said...

The sequester is a brick in the grand canyon attempt to correct things like the post office losing apx 3 billion in 2009 and 30 billion in 2012. The only reason they go after the police and fire is scare tactic. After you max all your credit cards, don’t you have to stop spending?

The government had its role in the housing bubble the minute it started giving tax breaks for home ownership. The renter says I am getting tax penalized for not owning a house, so I better buy one whether it makes sense for my lifestyle or not.

I am not crediting these to Teflon, I mean “transparent” Obama, but he is in office now and he can’t keep spending money we don’t have. When the Chinese come to collect, you are going to hope some Americans kept their guns.

Cathy said...

When the Chinese come to collect, we are not going to be able to get the money back from the surfer dude who spent it on sushi and lobster.

Abanterer said...

The Credit Ceiling is not like your credit cards, and the government does not work like your checkbook budget. This is obvious and it is infuriating that it keeps popping back up like Dracula no matter how many times you stab it in the heart. If the government cuts its spending, it is forced to downsize staff, eliminating jobs, it is forced to buy less, which means vendors up and down the line get hit, and it puts less people on maintaining the infrastructure we have, making it weaker and requiring more money to fix.

Because the GOP had chosen, foolishly, to not pay the bills the government had racked up by stonewalling on the debt ceiling, they forced this silly sequester on us, and all it was supposed to do is to get them to the table to avoid cuts to programs they didn't want cut. Instead, they are probably going to do the same thing, and cause even more havoc.

The housing bubble was caused when conservatives, primarily in the GOP but also, sadly, in the Democrat corner, thought de-regulating the banking and financial sectors would b a good idea. And it turns out, you can't trust them; They benefit from the foreclosure of homes, they benefit from the ability to get invested money insured by the government, and they enjoyed the relative immunity from prosecution, by both parties. Believe me, if Obama had actually gone after the banks like he should have, and maybe put some of these Bastards in Suits in the pokey, I'd send him a cake. But, it seems that having a lot of money makes you immune to such things - and the Tea party or the Big PR firms that supported them, or the GOP in general have convinced me they will do even less than he did.

And the Chinese are not coming to collect anytime soon - they invested in Treasury bonds, and they did that because it's better for trade. They can't cash it, because they would nail their economy hard. They have some influence, because they are a major trading partner, but they can't just up and buy Delaware, it simply doesn't work like that. If you need a gun to feel safe from the threat of international trade minutia, you probably have a bigger problem somewhere else.

Cathy said...

I understand that cut backs mean layoffs; I am from the private sector. Just because the government does not work like your check book, does not mean there is a money tree in the backyard. Government employees and people on assistance outnumber tax payers, that is not sustainable and nobody wins. We are not talking about a little bit of money; we are talking about 5.9 trillion dollars. The post office looses so much money I can’t even find a published total, last I read was double digit billions, and that is just one agency. Maybe you understand a magic money concept that helps you sleep at night, but for a mere mortal, this is very disturbing. Free enterprise is the only thing that can get us out of this mess, ask Bono. The big bad business people need competition to keep them honest, not government regulations that they are so skilled at manipulating. Use your buying power, buy organic, shop small, etc.

It was the regulating and the manipulation of the regulations that caused people to buy houses they could not afford. No one was forced to buy a house. The government and its social engineering policies penalized people that didn’t by making them pay more taxes, but we should resist free, because it always cost more in the end. A light should go on if you are living in a house nicer then your parents and your parents make more money then you do. That’s my plug for personal responsibility.

I was vaguely referencing a quote from a Japanese advisor at the beginning of WWII that advised not to attack our main land because there would be a gun behind every blade of grass. Maybe Delaware is not on the block but I hope you don’t eat pork.

Abanterer said...

Good News - the US is a pretty wealthy nation. We can absorb that debt because our assets are something over 10 times larger. And because interest rates are so low, the amount we're paying on the debt is manageable. Our debt to GDP ratio is in better shape than most nations, including Germany. It's something to keep an eye on, but currently, we can manage the current levels - austerity is just hurting us unnecessarily.

And don't get me started on the PO - the GOP Congress in 2006 saddled them with the task of having to fund pensions of their employees for 75 years. Without that ridiculous requirement, they'd be running a surplus. And the only thing Bono is qualified to discuss is sunglasses, IMHO.

How is it that we can discuss the power of a Free Market in one paragraph, and in the next, how corporations twisted the regulations for their gain? I will never understand how an industry that has responded repeatedly to deregulation in the past by becoming a bunch of corrupt bastards will somehow behave the second they lose all regulations and are allowed full rein with no checks. The banks lied people into getting loans that looked manageable initially, then spiked the deals later. Blaming them for taking the deal is blaming them for not being able to read the loan officers mind, or peer into the future. The full cause of the crisis starts with the financial industry, and ends with the financial industry. The input of a Blue collar worker from Pittsburgh is vanishingly minute.

And, only in passing, I'm quietly confident that, whoever said it (Not Yamamoto, as has been claimed, but I had to look that up), said it in a time before the ICBM and Thermonuclear Bombs were a thing, which would greatly reduce the amount of cover a blade of grass provides. Personally, I get a 'Plate of shrimp' moment whenever I hear about how we all need guns to protect the nation from invaders, because I then often hear how 'You guys better watch yourselves, because we know which side has the guns.'

Cathy said...

Glad we are loaded and can keep spending, and the only unemployment to worry about is the sequester, I can go watch Honey Boo Boo now.

Abanterer said...

Bleh - Is there nothing else on? May as well do something enjoyable, like regrouting the shower or calculating pi out to 100 decimals, something.

Cathy said...

The Honey Boo Boo comment was my sarcastic concession meaning ok I am the moron. But I am compelled to make one last attempt to penetrate. Think about this, don’t Google it. It cost $.46 cents to mail a letter from the Florida everglades to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. No private company’s pricing structure is that out of whack. They say its retirement for sympathy; just like its police and fire they attack for scare tactic when budget cuts are suggested. And again this is one out so many agencies my brain can’t even fathom how many.