Wednesday, December 17, 2014


On today's radio show, Rush Limbaugh quoted a 2009 story about Jeb Bush from The Washington Times:
"Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it’s time--" this is May 3rd of 2009, so five years ago, admittedly, but it fits nicely with yesterday. "Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its 'nostalgia' for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election. 'You can't beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don't like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that,' Mr. Bush said."
The Times story went on to say:
The former president's brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama's message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.

"So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the [Republican] messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn’t draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.

"From the conservative side, it's time for us to listen first, to learn a little bit, to upgrade our message a little bit, to not be nostalgic about the past because, you know, things do ebb and flow."
This story was published after a meeting with voters at a pizza restaurant in Arlington, Virginia; the meeting was attended by Bush, Eric Cantor, and Mitt Romney, and it was under the banner of something called the National Council for a New America. The Times story carried the headline "Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to Leave Reagan Behind."

Now, as Steve Benen noted at the time, there's no evidence that Jeb actually mentioned Reagan by name. But there was fury on the right, and Cantor in a subsequent appearance on CNN, felt the need to walk back the nonexistent Reagan-bashing remarks:
"I don't think it's giving up Ronald Reagan," Cantor said on CNN Monday morning when asked if the GOP needed to move past Reagan. "I think the brilliance of Ronald Reagan's leadership was his ability to identify the challenges that really were impacting people's lives back in the day that he was elected in 1980."
But Republicans hear what they want to hear. If Fox tells them that President Obama said "You didn't build that" and meant that entrepreneurs played no part in their own success, they believe that. If talk radio tells them that Hillary Clinton said "What difference does it make?" because she was indifferent to the four deaths in the 2012 Benghazi attack, they believe that.

So Jeb really may have to explain repeatedly why he said in 2009 that it was "time to leave Reagan behind" -- even though he didn't actually say that. You know those mythical words are fighting words on the right.


By the way, Limbaugh is -- to put it mildly -- not a Jeb Bush enthusiast. In fact, he thinks Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton should run as one ticket:
The ideal, the perfect ticket for the 2016 election: Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush. Now, they can figure out who's on top of the ticket on their own. But when you compare their positions, Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, on the key important issues, they are two peas in the same pod....

This is made to order the way both parties want amnesty. Jeb Bush wants it; Hillary wants it. Both parties want to win the nomination, Hillary by running away from the Democrat base, Jeb by running away from the Republican base. This is an ideal combination.

When it comes to Obamacare, national health care, both parties are signed on, both parties care about their donors more than their voters. And both parties have the exact same donor class. Mayors, stockbrokers, elite entertainment industry types, you name it. Folks, this is a ticket made in heaven. I can't recall a time in my life where a presidential candidate and a vice presidential candidate are so close to each other on the issues, where if one of them was unable to serve, we wouldn't know the difference if the vice president had to take office.

If Jeb's at the top of the ticket and they win and something happens and Hillary has to take over, nobody'd know the difference. Same token, Hillary is elected president, Jeb's veep, Hillary can't make it for some reason, her husband being the white Bill Cosby, might come up, you never know, then Jeb becoming president, nobody'd know the difference. Wouldn't skip a beat....

Bipartisanship, crossing the aisle, united government, no more gridlock, key agreement on all the important issues that people vote on. Clinton-Bush '16. You choose the top.
From Limbaugh's Facebook page:

I think you'll see this a lot in the wingnuttosphere. This run is not going to be easy for Jeb.


Daro said...

Rush is wrong. Madame Walmart is probably much farther to the right than Bush Mk. III. Especially in her servitude to that beleagured beacon of democracy in the Middle East.

Steve M. said...

"On issue after issue, Jeb’s track record in Florida pushed conservatism’s envelope to the breaking point."

"Jeb Bush has consistently aligned himself with Israel's hardline Likud Party."

Ten Bears said...

Dogdamnit, I hate it when I agree with the cyst in his butt hole (How did that happen?) draft dodger, but a Jeb/Hillary ticket is exactly right. Peas in a pod: both of their grand daddies financrd Hitler.

Chai T. Ch'uan said...

To get it right, you have to read the caption, "You pick the top" with a subvocal Beavis & Butthead snigger, since one of Rush's favoritest recurring themes evar is how "butch" he thinks Hillary Clinton is (meow!). So this is a dog whistle to the dittoheads that also backhands Jeb's testosterone level, in Rushspeak.

Hey, does that mean Rush actually did get Jeb's message to the GOP to appeal more to a younger generation -- with a 3rd-grade humor level?

Steve M. said...

Chai, you're absolutely right about that slogan. I should have made note of that.

Victor said...

The only thing the conservative mind is capable of learning and remembering, is a meme.

Drudge, Rush, Malkin, and FOX give them their orders, and away the flying monkey's go!

Without the support of almost all of those, Jeb's going up Mt. Everest without Sherpa guides and Oxygen tanks.

petrilli said...

Another word inferred, but not mentioned by Jeb in that quote might be "Compassionate Conservatism". The scam worked for his brother President Fredo. Another word inferred from that meeting might be "Triangulation." A strategy available to Jeb (eschewed by Romney) for surviving the GOP primary with maybe a trace dignity left for the race. Maybe Jeb's Sister Souljah moment is coming.

petrilli said...

Jeb will be going up Mount Everest with the whole Bush crime family legacy behind him. KBR, Baker-Botts, Carlysle, Halliburton. He hardly needs Malkin and the Egg man.

Philo Vaihinger said...

The right didn't like GW, either. And they REALLY didn't like his Dad. But both were conservative enough by comparison to any Democrat.

Well, maybe not some of the Blue Dog types.

Victor said...

The right LOOOOOOOOOOOVED them some George W. Bush!

Right up until the time that his and his mis-administrations incompetence couldn't be swept under the rug and ignored, or his endless turds, gilded.

Then, he failed Conservatism - and became a big spending RINO.

Because remember:
Conservatism can never fail - it can only be failed!

Ken_L said...

Clever interrogators will turn this non-quote to their advantage even if Jeb didn't say it. Once he protests that he didn't diss Reagan, it's easy to cite some real or hypothetical Reagan position and ask Jeb if he agrees. Before he knows it, he'll be challenged either to endorse every word Reagan ever uttered or admit he really DOES want to leave Reagan behind.

Roger said...

Rush has already chosen the bottom.