Sunday, July 19, 2015


We're being told that Donald Trump's candidacy just blew up. We're being informed that we've "probably reached an inflection point ... that will probably mark the moment when Trump’s candidacy went from boom to bust."

Maybe -- but the Trump fanboys and fangirls are still on his side.

I'm looking at the comments to a Fox News Insider story about Trump's attack on John McCain. It sure looks as if the Trumpites (and even some non-Trumpites) are defiant, and are critical of the Trump opponents who've denounced him:
I'm not for or against Trump... I am against the Republican establishment and this response from the entrenched politicians seems to be more of an attempt to attack Trump for any reason than true outrage. Perry and the rest mocking outgrage and disgust are just showing their true colors. I will say at least Trump is at least saying something and not walking a politically correct tightrope.


Exactly! Those candidates attacking him are going to end up with egg on their faces. They shouldn't underestimate Trump...he's the only one speaking out whose not worried about PC...that's why we like him!


john ma cain didn't even try to beat obama when he ran . that what i don't like about him and he votes for and with obama on everything


The only other Republican candidate is Ben Carson besides Donald Trump the rest should step down Until McCain apologizes for calling Trump supporters Crazies I don't think McCain should get an apology by the way my father was a Vietnam Vet that was not captured and didn't get the title of Hero he received the Bronze Star with Valor so don't even go there Politicians. Trump is right my Dad is a Hero he saved lives !!!!!!


being caclled a hero all depends on how you define the word, in my opinion McShame served like hundreds of thousands of others Trump was right and I agree.


If you really want to keep up with the breaking news, check out the backlash agaist Gov. Perry. There is mega support for Trump on the Govenor's own page asking for Trump to appologise. It may have caused Perry any chance in to win GOP. He backed the wrong side. No one cares if McCain is a Hero... McCain long ago sold out to the Dems and his record as a Sen. and on vetrans rights is abyzmal. The VA mess in AZ his state means he has blood on his hands and nothing has been fixed yet. Former Hero or not Trump keeps speaking the plain truth. WE the people get it, it doesn't have to be eloquent, but it does resonate.
This commenter seems to be referring to Rick Perry's Facebook page, where the Trump brigades are attacking Perry for going after Trump:
Quit twisting things Rick, you're acting like a liberal.


Perry let it go...McCain is a hero but in our world today we need leadership not career politicians who have sold US out.


I appreciate McCain's service but I agree with Trump. McCain is the reason he lost the election to Obama. The only reason I voted for that ticket was because of Palin, not him.


This is the wrong way to get our attention and votes. Governor Perry.


Be careful Gov. Perry, read what he said. Most republicans and all conservatives agree with Trump.


John McCain is a GOP statist that uses his being a vet to get elected and then go against everything we stand for.

No more politicians, no more lawyers, no more statists.
At Free Republic, they're touting an online poll at a message board called GOP Briefing Room:
Do you think Trump's remarks concerning McCain's POW status will improve, have no impact, or decrease his polling results?
Results as of 6:24 this morning: 90.4% Improve, 7.2% No Impact, 2.4% Decrease.

I didn't see this coming when Trump entered the race, or even when he rose in the polls, but he seems to have developed a Ron Paul-like cult -- people who really are impervious to bad news about their hero and who'll flood the zone (online, at least) when their hero is attacked.

We can also look back to Ross Perot in 1992 -- recall that he rose, declined, dropped out of the race, returned to the race (making paranoid-seeming claims about how George H.W. Bush operatives had compelled him to withdraw in the first place) ... and still managed to finish with 19% of the vote, which was actually 5 percentage points more than the final Gallup poll of the race had predicted. I've said before that I think Trump is a looser cannon than Perot -- I think it's possible that this is the first of several big unforced errors -- but I also think that he has a fan base that might stick with him for quite a while no matter what he says. It's probably a not-quite-big-enough fan base like Ron Paul's, but I don't think it's going to disappear rapidly, as those who see his campaign as a purely media-driven nine days' wonder seem to believe.


Infidel753 said...

Fascinating, in a rather vomitous way. We'll have to wait a few days for polling to show how widespread such attitudes are among Republican primary voters. But wouldn't it be something if it's the less-wacko candidates, not Trump, who have shot themselves in the foot here, having underestimated the disgustingness of their constituents?

Victor said...

I'm no great fan of John McCain, but the man DID serve!

Where was Chump during the Vietnam War - besides sitting on on his ass?

I can't tell you how unspeakable filthy I feel reading these commenter!

Trump and his supporters are lower than amoeba poop in the Marianas Trench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

n.y.k. said...

Hahaha! I did the same thing last night. Checked out the comments over at Gateway Pundit. Full blown Trump Fest over there.

GOP establishment types are frantically predicting that every Trumpism is the last straw though. Check out the front page of memeorandum right now to see them insisting Trump is "over" or something. Good times!

And as an aside, since when do Republicans care if chicken hawks mock Vietnam veterans? *cough* swift boat *cough*

Yastreblyansky said...

since when do Republicans care if chicken hawks mock Vietnam veterans? *cough* swift boat *cough*
Steve nailed it in the previous post. They don't care about McCain one way or another, they care about finding some chest-thumping, indignant-warrior way of neutralizing Trump without addressing the fact that his "ideas" are standard GOP base-satisfying ideas.

retiredeng said...

It's a Pluto length long shot that Trump wins the primaries or better yet run as an independent. But if he runs it would make Jon Stewart at least consider signing up for another year. Trump is like catnip to Stewart!

Infidel753 said...

Retiredeng: But if he runs it would make Jon Stewart at least consider signing up for another year.

Then that's another positive to Trump running (besides the fact that it would drain off the Morlock voting bloc from Jeb and help Hillary win). Anyway, as a plutocrat, Pluto is probably Trump's home planet.

Marcus said...

its a good was on the account of the people who went to see him....remember the base hates mcain and the media made him...indirectly he is going after the media not a winner vs a loser what do americans he is taking jabs at the ones who protected him....i see him going up in the polls not down cause of this...

Samuel Gonzalez said...

Donald Trump is benefiting from the frustration of the GOP base with a Party that has sold out its conservative principles. We're angry as Hell with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell for being punks in fighting against Dems. This is payback of the base to support Trump to piss the GOP establishment off!

The Last Tradition

M. Bouffant said...

A group whose only reason for being is to "piss off" the G.O.P. Establishment & "libs" is not going to get very far, but do continue your bitter clinging.

Hamilton said...

The coming hand-wringing from FNC should be interesting. I don't think Ailes had this fuck-up in mind when he went full-on for the s.f.vulgarian, who could have? I imagine that the FNC camp is bed-wetting/night terrors over how this fuck-up has to be massaged for it's viewers. Fox will now determine, and cement its place as, the true voice of the Republican party.

Glennis said...

The one consistent trait Donald Trump displays is that he's an asshole. He was an asshole about Mexican people, he's an asshole about random celebrities, and this time he's an asshole about some who's identified as being something held sacred by politicians - a veteran. Suddenly his assholishness is beyond the pale. But really, who's surprised? An asshole is an asshole.

And for those who admire an asshole for his "honesty" - would you really want an asshole leading the nation? Seriously? Because - guess what - he's eventually going to be an asshole to you. He's not ever going to be on YOUR side.

petrilli said...

So who's next in the GOP to narfle the Garthok? Luntz just took his turn. Maybe they'll give him two more tries. A triple Luntz.

Hamilton said...

The last time I took the dog to the vet he had me bring along a "triple Luntz" sample. Poor ol' girl had worms.

Hamilton said...

BONUS: Palin must be LIVID that she has no idea what to say to milk her constituency, Maybe another unplanned pregnancy is on the way.

Rand Careaga said...

Please proceed, Mr. Gonzalez.