Friday, May 23, 2014


I saw this earlier today:
Joe Scarborough said Friday that he doesn't understand what evidence Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) has to back up his claim that opposition to President Barack Obama's signature health care law is driven by his race.

"I must say, I have been behind closed doors with thousands of conservatives through the years. I have never once heard one of them say in the deep south or in the northeast or in South Boston, 'Boy, I really hate Obamacare because that black president' -- no, I've never heard anybody come close to saying that," Scarborough said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "And I have spoken to some wildly right wing groups. I have never heard it once."

Scarborough was reacting to a tense exchange between Rockefeller and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) Wednesday during a Senate Commerce Committee hearing on health care. Johnson took offense when Rockefeller suggested that some of those who oppose the Affordable Care Act don't like the President because he's "of the wrong color."
Now, remember: I'm a guy who thinks that the next Democratic president is going to be under such merciless assault from wingnuts that the hatred is going to be impossible to distinguish from Obama-hate -- and that's true even though the next Democratic president will almost certainly be white. Right-wingers hated Bill Clinton. They hate Hillary Clinton. They hate Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. They will hate Elizabeth Warren or Martin O'Malley or Andrew Cuomo or Brian Schweitzer if one of them is the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate rather than Hillary, and the hatred will only increase if one of them actually becomes president. And they will continue to hate Obamacare even if a future Democratic president and Congress modify it so it's significantly different from the current system.


If you tell me that race is the furthest thing from the minds of at least some Obamacare haters, you're not really paying very close attention.

It didn't take me very long to find these:

(Source; source; source; source; source.)

Surprised, Joe? You shouldn't be.


Life As I Know It Now said...

If a woman who isn't republican wins the presidency in 2016 we will get to see extreme sexism just as we've seen extreme racism in action with the Obama presidency. The right wing shows extreme hatred toward anyone not their own.

peabody nobis said...

I was heartened to see Joe got some pushback on his assertion during the show.(Which is highly unusual, since he's not really open to dissension.)
He just can't help himself; he always picks the issue least likely to hurt him with his base.

aimai said...

Jebus, even though I know this stuff is out there its still horrible to see. The President and Mrs. Obama are made of iron to endure this crap. Good thing they both have a lifetime of living in the US while Black to have toughened them up.

Yastreblyansky said...

I'm sure Scarborough is being totally honest here and none of his friends are racist in any way. Just psychopathically indifferent to the racism they encourage in the "base" with pretty much every word they utter.

Life As I Know It: It's going to be pretty interesting, isn't it, because they don't feel obliged to even hide the sexism at all.

M. Bouffant said...

Yow. I was nuts enough to look for, & find, the original & comments of that last lovely selection.

They're like pathetic/disturbed 10-yr. olds who just discovered certain words can shock, except I'm afraid most of them have guns, & are just bright enough to wrap their fingers around a trigger.

Victor said...

Fish gotta swim.

Birds gotta fly.

Conservatives gotta hate.

Palli said...

The visceral hate is can America live up to the promise of equality when the voices are still screaming. Racism fact is woven tightly into our history and present.

Yes, I know America never was...and may never will be...

aimai said...

I think what embarrasses me most is that Scarborough has to engage in some kind of wilful act of not seeing and seeing-and-forgetting to pretend that this is even remotely true. And that he is permitted to get away with it.

ChemTeam said...


"Scarborough has to engage in some kind of wilful act of not seeing and seeing-and-forgetting to pretend that this is even remotely true."

Upton Sinclair:

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it."

Ten Bears said...

I don't think, Chem, that his job depends on it in the least nor that he necessarily misunderstands. He may be an intern murdering psychopath but he isn't stupid, and is to my observation positively gleeful in his distribution of the Kool-Aid. Of course, (not unlike a couple of Clintons we know) as a Bilderberger, Council on Foreign Relations, Iron Mountain, Tri-lateral Commission Member of the Vast Reich-Wing Conspiracy he would have more at "stake" than merely a "job".

Quite possibly the most contemptuous of the Mainstream Multi-Millionaire Media.

[spits tobacco juice at the cat]

Philo Vaihinger said...

He never heard such a thing?


He lies.

gocart mozart said...

If Joe has internet access, he should go on a website (any conservative or MSM website will due) go to an article about Barack or Michelle aka Moochelle aka The Wookie and read the comments after the articles.