Wednesday, January 07, 2015


More from Fox News:
On the January 7 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, strategic analyst Ralph Peters cited the [Paris] shooting to attack Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), invoking the recently released Senate Intelligence report on CIA interrogation techniques. Peters proclaimed that "these terrorists who did this monstrous attack in Paris are the people Senator Feinstein doesn't even want to waterboard" ...
Yes, really, he said that. Fox Nation turned the soundbite into a big, screaming headline:

Here's the clip:

Do I have to explain how counterproductive torture has been? Do I have to point out that torture is part of the reason one of the suspects was radicalized in the first place?
The pair believed to have carried out the murders were named as the brothers Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, French nationals of Algerian parentage aged 34 and 32, who were born in Paris’s 10th arrondissement.

Chérif was reportedly part of an Iraqi jihadi network of around 10 young Parisians that was dismantled in the nearby 19th arrondissement. He was sentenced to three years in prison with 18 months suspended in relation to terror charges in May 2008.

He was also among 13 men arrested in May 2010 on suspicion of plotting to break an infamous jihadist, Smaïn Aït Ali Belkacem, out of prison, where he was serving a life sentence for the Paris train bombing of 1995....

“He smokes, drinks, doesn’t have a beard, and has had girlfriends,” said [his lawyer, Vincent] Ollivier. He described himself as an “occasional Muslim”.

But the war in Iraq shocked Chérif, and he was said to be angered by treatment of Muslims at Abu Ghraib prison.

It was against this backdrop that he was pushed towards a jihadi recruiter.
(Emphasis added.)

Yes, let's go back to doing that -- look how well it worked when we did it before.


Philo Vaihinger said...

EVERY CIA director said it worked just fine. Those who actually did it say it worked fine. Diane F's staff assistants say it doesn't work. Who gives a shit what they say?

Philo Vaihinger said...

As for Cherif and idiots like him, if it hadn't been that it would have been something else. To hell with them. As soon as possible.

Victor said...

I'm afraid that torture is now an acceptable part of America's culture.
More people approve, than disapprove.

George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers, weep...

Knight of Nothing said...

Most unfortunately, Victor is probably right. But it doesn't have to stay that way.

And as for Philo's comment, all I can say is "whaaa?"

Go to the magic Google machine and type the words, "studies about torture." It isn't just some no-name staffers who say torture doesn't work.

Just because some jackasses say torture works, that don't make it so. Even if those jackasses are CIA directors.

Professor Fate said...

Knight - I would say especially if those Jackasses are CIA directors. They have shown themselves to be very economical in their use of the truth in the past.

Knight of Nothing said...

Professor - heheh! Well put.