Friday, January 16, 2015


I'm glad USA Today is writing about Bobby Jindal's upcoming speech in London, which I told you about on Wednesday:
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a potential candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, will give a speech Monday in London and reiterate the disputed claim that Muslim immigrants have created "no-go zones" in Europe where non-Muslims are not welcome....

"In the West, non-assimilationist Muslims establish enclaves and carry out as much of Sharia law as they can without regard for the laws of the democratic countries which provided them a new home," Jindal's text reads. "It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so called 'no-go zone.' The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom."

The "no-go zones" theory became a bit of an international incident over the weekend when Steven Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism said on FoxNews that in parts of France, Britain, Sweden and Germany, Muslim immigrants have set up enclaves where the host nations "don't exercise any sovereignty." He added that in the United Kingdom there are even entire cities -- specifically the city of Birmingham -- "where non-Muslims simply don't go in."

British Prime Minister David Cameron responded: "When I heard this frankly, I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fools Day. This guy is clearly a complete idiot."
On Wednesday, quoting a Weekly Standard story, I told you about this aspect of Jindal's speech, but I neglected to mention another excerpt the Standard quoted:
"In my country, Christianity is the largest religion. And we require exactly no one to conform to it. And we do not discriminate against anyone who does not conform to it. It’s called freedom.

"A so-called religion that allows for and endorses killing those who oppose it is not a religion at all, it is a terrorist movement...."
By saying this, Jindal is throwing in his lot with those who argue that Islam should be denied First Amendment freedom-of-religion protection in America -- a disturbingly common idea on the right. For instance, here's freshman Georgia congressman Jody Hice, speaking during last year's campaign:
"Most people think Islam is a religion, it’s not. It’s a totalitarian way of life with a religious component," he said. "But it’s much larger. It’s a geo-political system that has governmental, financial, military, legal and religious components. And it’s a totalitarian system that encompasses every aspect of life and it should not be protected [under U.S. law]."

Hice didn't stop there.

"This is not a tolerant, peaceful religion even though some Muslims are peaceful. Radical Muslims believe that Sharia is required by God and must be imposed worldwide," he said. "It’s a movement to take over the world by force. A global caliphate is the objective. That’s why Islam would not qualify for First Amendment protection since it’s a geopolitical system ... This is a huge thing to realize and I hope you do. This will impact our lives if we don’t get a handle on it."
Hic is seen as one of the most extreme members of Congress -- but Jindal is right out there with him.

Assuming Jindal gets into the presidential race, it's clear that Ted Cruz is not going to be the candidate who's furthest to the right.


Incidentally, Fox is report is reportedly planning to respond to Emerson's statement about "no-go zones" by broadcasting a correction. Given Fox's track record, that's extraordinary -- though we'll see how far the correction goes.


Lawrence said...

"In my country, Christianity is the largest religion. And we require exactly no one to conform to it. And we do not discriminate against anyone who does not conform to it. It’s called freedom."
Has he actually been to the South?

Ken_L said...

There are, however, lots of no-go zones in the USA. But they're owned by rich mainly white people so they don't count, because even Muslims are free to get rich and buy their own gated subdivisions.

Aunt Snow said...

Last time I was in Paris, I had a lovely lunch in an historic Art Nouveau bistro, right in the middle of one of those "no-go zones." If I recall correctly, it was right next to a Halal deli and down the block from an historic Parisian passage with Indian restaurants and sari shops, and around the corner from a variety theatre. I had sauteed seabass, and a salad with crevettes and pampelmousse.

Philo Vaihinger said...

Despite the First Amendment, there are federal crimes one commits by speaking, writing, broadcasting, etc.

Some have to do with breaches of government secrecy, but not all.

And some forms of speech that are not criminal PC people want to criminalize under the rubric “hate speech.”

In Europe that has sometimes involved suppression of entire books like Mein Kampf.

Liberals would be the last to deny that there are and have been ideologies of hate and movements of hate that have aimed at and achieved horrific real world political goals, most notably the near extermination of the Jews of Europe by the Nazis.

Not only is Mein Kampf banned, but it is illegal in Germany to form anew under any name a Nazi Party.

I don’t know many PC people who think that ban should be lifted.

It is not only not impossible that such an ideology of hate could assume the guise of a religion, it is actually the case.

The original ideology of the Black Muslims, for example, as well as its current mutation in the teachings of the Nation of Islam, are such pure and toxic distillations of hate.

Imagine something as horrific as The Turner Diaries presented as a sacred text, read from at “religious services,” taught to children in religion classes, and preached on Sundays over the radio and on cable TV.

If we in America are going to suppress hate speech and, one supposes, hate literature, will we end up criminalizing meetings of the American Nazi Party where extermination of Jews is urged in all seriousness as a political goal?

The Koran itself is as toxic as Mein Kampf or The Turner Diaries.

Sure, not every word or every passage.

You can say the same for Mein Kampf.

See where this is going?

I am not urging suppression of any of these forms of speech in America, but we really ought not to blink the fact that there is a lot of hate speech out there, a lot of it informs the ideologies of actual political movements, and a lot of it wears the guise of religion.

Oddly, the most vicious of the hate-religions now preached in the US is not Islam but the filth spread by the Nation of Islam.

But Black Muslims are not much given to terrorism or Jihad urged by their fake religion, though the hatred they spread has a lot to do with American politics of race and American mob racial violence.

The real Muslims, on the other hand, regularly produce exactly that sort of violence, all over the world.

They see themselves as heroic and righteous defenders of true religion and God.

Hitler and his devoted followers saw themselves as heroic and righteous defenders of the German Volk.

Hell, everyone is a hero in his own mind.

Remember Abimael Guzman?

Victor said...

Will FOX apologize for all of the idiots its had on saying idiotic things since it started?

Or isn't there enough time before the oceans drown or steam us all to death?

Ten Bears said...

I have Mein Kampf to be quite informative, in particular the author's admiration for the Untied States solution to its "Indian Problem." It's not that we don't ban books, we do. You can buy Hitler's books, and dog-shit like the Turner Diaries, but for example, very little of Ward Churchill's extensive chronicle of the white dog's genocide of twenty-five million First "Americans." Jews, "Christians", Muslims, Mormons, those India Indians assholes who rape four year old girld are all the same: child molesters, woman beaters, mule fuckers.

Animals bow down to gods.

Philo Vaihinger said...

Was that hate speech?

Dark Avenger said...

Glad you are here to clear these things up,