Tuesday, June 06, 2023

FOX COMMENTERS THINK A DEAD BLACK MOTHER MEANS STAND YOUR GROUND IS WORKING JUST FINE IN FLORIDA

A confrontation between Florida neighbors led to a fatal shooting on Friday. Fox News has a fairly straightforward report:
A Florida mother was shot and killed through a front door by her neighbor over the weekend in what authorities are calling a "neighborhood feud" that involved the victim’s children.

... The woman, later identified Ajike "AJ" Shantrell Owens, was rushed to a hospital, where she died, FOX35 Orlando reported.

The neighbor, who has not been publicly identified, has not been arrested or charged with a crime, claiming that the shooting was in self-defense under Florida’s "Stand Your Ground" law, authorities said.

... [Marion County sheriff Billy] Woods said the shooting appeared to happen after an encounter between the neighbor and Owens’ children.

Owens confronted the neighbor after her children told her that the neighbor threw an object toward the children, hitting one of them, Woods said.

The ensuing encounter between Owens and the neighbor was "aggressive," according to Woods, and may have involved banging on doors and verbal threats. Woods said these claims are still under investigation.

The neighbor then fired multiple shots through the front door, striking Owens.
Owens was Black. The Fox story doesn't mention this, but other news outlets have noted that the shooter is white.

While some of the commenters who have responded to the Fox story wish it could have been resolved without violence, quite a few of them think this all worked out exactly as it should have -- what the shooter did was a reasonable and proportional response. Oh, and the dead mother and her kids were ... well, you know:
Hey kids, stay out of the neighbor's yard. Don't let me tell you again! You got it! Problem solved!!

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she received the Ashley Babbitt treatment for trespassing, don't trespass and don't die, wow that was easy.

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The four children’s fathers were not available for comment.

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You never know what they are capable of. Always error on the side of safety and preservation of your life.

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Come to my house kicking and beating on a door trying to harm me... WELL she got what she wanted is all I can say. you can not go to someone's HOME and try to threaten them. There is no legal justification for the one that got shot to be over in someone else's yard kicking and screaming threats toward that homeowner. Maybe she should have watched her kids and kept them out of out peoples yard OR not been so violent toward others.. Kids gonna grow up just ..........

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I'm sure her little honor roll kids were little angels.

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... The person who got shot was the violent vicious mother of the heathens living next door. The shooter was being victimized and fearful of her life.

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prison not needed in this case, the violent one dead!...thankfully she won't be spawning anymore welfare tickets

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I’m a retired combat vet. Someone pounding on my front door screaming that are going to harm me gets shot. I won’t wait or hesitate to blow a hole the size of a baseball thru it. Don’t bring violence or threat of violence to my world and I’ll let you live.

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Everyone knows how these people behave; no impulse control, exhibit extreme aggression with threats of violence. Lets not pretend Ajike was behaving like an adult.

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There are lots more of these people we need to divest our society of.

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Sounds like the Mom did not control her bad children and because they did not obey or were not told to behave by the Mom they got their mother killed.
As I've noted, a few people think the shooting was an overreaction, like this commenter:
I am 100% for protecting yourself. However, if the woman did not have a weapon in her hand than the shooter should have just shut the door and called the police. You can't just shoot someone and say your standing your ground when no one has entered your home.
But others respond:
Stand your ground laws apply everywhere in the state, not just if someone enters your home. If I'm walking down the street and someone starts acting aggressively towards me and making verbal threats, stand your ground law applies.

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If there was a screen door opened (it does not say) that is breaking and entering in Florida. It does not matter where the screen door is located, it is breaking and entering.

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if I told someone to leave my property and they refused and show violent tendencies i don't think i'd wait for the police...and why does a weapon need to be in hand? she could have easily had one concealed....so next time you want to scream and shout at being cut-off or some other slight, approach cautiously and courteously, anyone could be packing these days

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They DO NOT have to be entering the house to be considered a threat. Being on her property and not leaving... and acting aggressively is good enough to justify taking the shot.
As far as these commenters are considered, a citizen-administered death penalty is the appropriate sentence for any level of perceived or imagined threat, especially when the person causing the discomfort is one of "these people." We knew that, I guess, but we need to be reminded every so often in case we find ourselves thinking they might share our moral values.

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