tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post8588664807038026876..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-70035613674603104272012-11-08T14:14:16.174-05:002012-11-08T14:14:16.174-05:00Is there a plausible primary strategy that allows ...Is there a plausible primary strategy that allows a candidate to remain silent on a number of these issues (e.g. immigration, global warming) so that no "tacking" is actually required when they get to the general election? I feel as if most of the culture ware were tactics like that: ones that wouldn't antagonize the general electorate, but would appease the base so that the candidate never had to talk about anything substantive (and that kept the base motivated during the general election so that they would still vote, even when the candidate revealed their "moderate" stance on salient issues). Of course the culture ware has gotten more and more extreme, to the point that much of it now antagonizes the general electorate enough to torpedo many candidates election hopes.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474312183263590733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-89711476274687811272012-11-08T09:04:27.587-05:002012-11-08T09:04:27.587-05:00Philo, you may know that the Alabama legislature p...Philo, you may know that the Alabama legislature passed a horrible immigration law last year, and then doubled down on it this year. Perhaps more than in any other state, we have seen unions and African-Americans (some who are both) come together to support our immigrant community. I think everyone is aware that we need reasonable comprehensive immigration reform, but Alabama's law is definitely not the way to do it.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651455277401911296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-9387238818435137062012-11-08T08:54:11.414-05:002012-11-08T08:54:11.414-05:00Whether the Latino vote being Democratic has much ...Whether the Latino vote being Democratic has much to do with immigration policy is an interesting question.<br /><br />A more obvious and compelling basis is simple class interest.<br /><br />As to that, the class interest of workers is and has always been to push up the price of labor, and that is done in part by limiting supply.<br /><br />Hence working class opposition to open immigration makes perfect sense as a matter of class interest, as they know very well.<br /><br />Likewise working class opposition to out-sourcing and free trade, neither of which have the least thing to do with racism.<br /><br />Though I have no doubt opponents of protectionism might find it useful and effective propaganda to say it is racist.Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-30869576176035664392012-11-08T08:48:01.466-05:002012-11-08T08:48:01.466-05:00The view that wins them votes -- which has always ...<i>The view that wins them votes -- which has always been the rabble's view.</i><br /><br />And yet Wall Street will never let any Republican administration lend more than token support to that.Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-2155155797669639922012-11-07T23:30:35.535-05:002012-11-07T23:30:35.535-05:00I will add that of all the nasty things you can sa...I will add that of all the nasty things you can say about Bush, you can't say that the man was a racist. True, he often advocated policies that disproportionally hurt minorities, but he wasn't personally a rascist. Aside from Jeb, I don't think they have anyone else who meets that criteria. Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10879674319068543589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-69971791397858416892012-11-07T17:21:02.105-05:002012-11-07T17:21:02.105-05:00Thanks, NBB. Fixed now.Thanks, NBB. Fixed now.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-58753627220852546542012-11-07T17:18:34.468-05:002012-11-07T17:18:34.468-05:00The headcase that my fair state (Tx) just elected ...The headcase that my fair state (Tx) just elected to the Senate, Ted Cruz, is of course Hispanic (in his case, of Cuban descent), and is a rabid enough TeePee to have upset the establishment GOPer in the primary. It'll be interesting to see how he threads the immigration needle, since he seems to be the current R 'great brown hope' here. So far they haven't needed the Latino vote in Tx, but that won't last forever. (Will it?)BHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12991272246814476124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-39508693623870618682012-11-07T16:48:20.367-05:002012-11-07T16:48:20.367-05:00Nitpick: "In 2012, I think the nominee will ...Nitpick: "In 2012, I think the nominee will be Jeb Bush" -- obviously should be 2016.<br /><br />That said, I think you're spot on.Never Ben Betterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17814767173601107270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-20248686561361498252012-11-07T16:08:12.570-05:002012-11-07T16:08:12.570-05:00There is a deep hate and fear of "The Others&...There is a deep hate and fear of "The Others" by Conservatives, and THAT won't be easily overcome in 4 years.<br /><br />Even if Rubio decides to run, he will be, like Herman Cain, literally, a "token" candidate.<br /><br />And I'm not sure the Republicans in the country will back him. Their base problems will still be around for a while yet. <br />Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-238651806612528042012-11-07T16:07:23.560-05:002012-11-07T16:07:23.560-05:00So which of the two conflicting views is the view ...<i>So which of the two conflicting views is the view of "the right"?</i><br /><br />The view that wins them votes -- which has always been the rabble's view. The elites may know it's not working anymore in a changing America, but it's such an ingrained idea among the rabble that it can't just be excised from party orthodoxy.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-38907691602234773382012-11-07T15:54:02.227-05:002012-11-07T15:54:02.227-05:00What is "tacking to the right" on immigr...What is "tacking to the right" on immigration, anyway?<br /><br />Wall Street wants as close to open immigration as possible, and it actually prefers illegal immigration since undocumented workers are more exploitable than legals.<br /><br />Only the rabble of the conservative movement oppose immigration and want to actually shut the door, pretty much completely, on all immigration, at least for a while.<br /><br />And they combine that view with an unshakeable refusal to normalize the circumstances of illegals already here ("amnesty"), preferring fantasies of deportation of some 10 or 11 million people.<br /><br />So which of the two conflicting views is the view of "the right"?Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-7622322563794496072012-11-07T15:06:19.161-05:002012-11-07T15:06:19.161-05:00Very interesting strategery. Very interesting strategery. Bulworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506195561153519897noreply@blogger.com