tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post8449775021343990474..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-35409137669696789602013-08-25T14:17:35.779-04:002013-08-25T14:17:35.779-04:00Are you actually asserting that Trayvon Martin is ...Are you actually asserting that Trayvon Martin is faking his death, Duff? Or are you simply changing the subject so you won't get beaten on some more? <br /><br />Slightly off topic: Newt Gingrich is a serial liar and has been throughout his political career, slandering officials and private citizens alike for personal gain. <br /><br />Based on this - if Newt shot you in the face in a hunting accident, would you merely apologize, or actually pay him for the privilege? Discuss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-68526682281418756342013-08-25T11:08:38.568-04:002013-08-25T11:08:38.568-04:00ZZZZzzDuffZZZzzzStupidZZzzzzzzz...ZZZZzzDuffZZZzzzStupidZZzzzzzzz...Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-66197621209296977782013-08-25T11:08:38.385-04:002013-08-25T11:08:38.385-04:00ZZZZzzDuffZZZzzzStupidZZzzzzzzz...ZZZZzzDuffZZZzzzStupidZZzzzzzzz...Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-65219154317171992652013-08-25T10:20:15.033-04:002013-08-25T10:20:15.033-04:00Duff, you're going have to do better than &quo...Duff, you're going have to do better than "Look over there! Al Sharpton.!"<br /><br />But thanks for sticking up for Zimmerman, the poor, oppressed, wanna-be-a-cop.Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-67724581799601698322013-08-25T09:59:22.238-04:002013-08-25T09:59:22.238-04:00Slightly off topic but I was amused (but unsurpris...Slightly off topic but I was amused (but unsurprised) to see that Al Sharpton has form when it comes to whipping up false accusations. 25 years ago he led the pack in accusing various white men of gang-raping a black girl whom it later transpired was a born-again lying liar. Eventually, he and others and the girl concerned, were all forced to pay damages to one of the white men who had been falsely accused. <br /><br />My question is simple, would you leave your raincoat at home if Al Sharpton promised you it would be a sunny day?<br /><br /> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pay_up_time_for_brawley_8q8M98zvpApS46BonCokvI/0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-21484704810633842372013-08-25T06:46:53.611-04:002013-08-25T06:46:53.611-04:00ZZZZZZZzzzzDuffzzzZZZzzzzzzzzzz...ZZZZZZZzzzzDuffzzzZZZzzzzzzzzzz...Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-69817198931879538452013-08-24T18:11:11.824-04:002013-08-24T18:11:11.824-04:00I'm game though! Why not?
The Martins have a...I'm game though! Why not? <br /><br />The Martins have already gotten a settlement with the HOA, and that indicates that there's a civil case. Unfortunately, Stand Your Ground provides immunity in civil cases as well as criminal, and a judge would have to state that there's cause to allow one. As it is Florida, and I expect so very little of Florida anymore, it will probably not get there. <br /><br />Which is a shame, because as grievously as the Zimmermans may have suffered because their son murdered someone, that actually happened, and their loss is no where near what the Martins experienced. Stand Your Ground is a terrible law, and this is a perfect example of why it is a terrible law. <br /><br />But bad judgements come up all the time, that's nothing new. What makes this horrible is the ghoulish delight on the Right on the simple injustice of it all. They are literally gloating that a boy was shot and the killer went free because of a bad law. They seem so gleeful that they 'won', so happy that their champion, a schlubby dope with delusions of heroism, managed to walk free. Perhaps they see themselves in this? I'd like to see an experiment done; where a bunch of rightwingers sit down and are asked to draw scene by scene what happened. I'll bet it will be enlightening. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-62829262580447107542013-08-24T17:34:05.310-04:002013-08-24T17:34:05.310-04:00And with that, I'm through with this discussio...And with that, I'm through with this discussion. <br /><br />Go ahead -- have the last word, since that's really what you crave most desperately.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-451823419666072772013-08-24T17:32:46.255-04:002013-08-24T17:32:46.255-04:00If I say no, you'll say, "Aha! So you agr...If I say no, you'll say, "Aha! So you agree that justice was served when Zimmerman was acquitted!" And if I say yes, you'll say, "Aha! You want a kangaroo court that keeps trying people until it reaches a pre-ordained conclusion!" <br /><br />No, I'm not going to fall into your ineptly constructed trap.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-91468514918796949692013-08-24T15:48:17.800-04:002013-08-24T15:48:17.800-04:00And so, Steve, do you want another trial?
Jest ...And so, Steve, do you want another trial? <br /><br />Jest askin'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-5203061496032127812013-08-24T15:19:49.435-04:002013-08-24T15:19:49.435-04:00From my albiet slanted persective, Zimmerman isn&#...From my albiet slanted persective, Zimmerman isn't "white". More like a semite (look it up, bozo: arabs, persians, phoenicians and, yes, hebrew), or perhaps one of those swarthy Carribean types. Not white.<br /><br />No fears.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-8486557086468607312013-08-24T14:55:44.093-04:002013-08-24T14:55:44.093-04:00Right. And we all know no jury has ever reached a ...Right. And we all know no jury has ever reached a bad decision.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-40333150317859692712013-08-24T14:51:47.273-04:002013-08-24T14:51:47.273-04:00Even so, Steve, the jury who listened to it all, b...Even so, Steve, the jury who listened to it all, believed him. End of - as we say 'over here'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-40027060794956377792013-08-24T14:25:36.865-04:002013-08-24T14:25:36.865-04:00Duff like all wingnuts, believes that George Zimme...Duff like all wingnuts, believes that George Zimmerman is the first defendant in the history of trial by jury to present an entirely honest accounting of the facts in dispute, without ever once shading the truth in his own favor. <br /><br />Duff's naïveté is touching.<br />Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-42525330942511740552013-08-24T13:58:32.436-04:002013-08-24T13:58:32.436-04:00Still, ZZZZZzzzzzZZzzzzzzzzzz...Still, ZZZZZzzzzzZZzzzzzzzzzz...Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-5093934866225972602013-08-24T13:47:48.596-04:002013-08-24T13:47:48.596-04:00If banging a head repeatedly against a sidewalk ob...If banging a head repeatedly against a sidewalk obviously produces serious injuries, but Zimmerman doesn't have serious injuries... Gee, maybe Zimmerman's head _wasn't_ banged repeatedly against a sidewalk. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-68214079115784103862013-08-24T13:15:54.438-04:002013-08-24T13:15:54.438-04:00But he lost sight of him.But he lost sight of him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-83493266300846023142013-08-24T13:07:57.030-04:002013-08-24T13:07:57.030-04:00"Zimmerman never even saw his attacker until ...<i>"Zimmerman never even saw his attacker until he leapt out on him from some shrubbery."</i><br /><br />Except for the whole time Zimmerman was describing him to the 911 operator, and then following him to see what he was doing.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04579861730666088507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-27616640213560024742013-08-24T12:23:54.732-04:002013-08-24T12:23:54.732-04:00Thank you, Ms. Burns, for raising the conversation...Thank you, Ms. Burns, for raising the conversation above the grunt and snuffle level. It was put about at the time that SYG law was going to be one of Zimmerman's main defence points but his lawyers deliberately ignored it and it did *not* form any part of his defence. Not least because 'Z' had no chance or choice having been jumped by 'T'. (You say that is a moot point but if you or I were armed and someone approached in a threatening manner then I doubt we would wait until we were on the ground having our head bashed *before* we produced the weapon which would stop a threatening approach instantly!)<br /><br />The fact that the judge saw fit to insist that SYG law was applicable, despite neither the defence or the prosecution raising it, says more about her than the case!<br /><br />I would suggest that Juror B-37 finding herself on the receiving end of a hostile liberal media was only too pleased to duck behind SYG law given that she, like the others, had voted 'not guilty'.<br /><br />I await any examples by me of "invent[ed] counterfactuals", or 'lies' as we call them 'over here', with interest.<br /><br />As for our genial host's suggestion that Z's head being banged against a kerbstone only produced "superficial injuries", I would be happy for a chance to repeat the experiment on his head at some time in the future!<br /><br />Look, Z was innocent of murder or manslaughter and a jury confirmed what the investigating police realised within hours - there was no case to answer. The efforts of so-called 'liberal' establishment figures and their singing chorus to complain about a jury verdict and to wish they could have another trial, and another, and another, until they find a jury that will give the correct verdict, says more about the state of American public life than any bit of Russian 'agit-prop' ever could do.<br />David DuffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-82400629880420893832013-08-24T12:03:29.025-04:002013-08-24T12:03:29.025-04:00Thank you for a civil and fact-laden answer, Marie...Thank you for a civil and fact-laden answer, Marie Burns. Dark Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220642215040873632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-47104650008043961222013-08-24T11:03:48.762-04:002013-08-24T11:03:48.762-04:00@David Duff: "... a Google map of the area w...@David Duff: "... a Google map of the area where the attack is said to have occurred does not appear to show any bushes near the spot, and Zimmerman was unable to tell Singleton if Martin jumped out from in front of him or from behind him." -- Daily Mail, July 1, 2013<br /><br />In her jury instructions, the judge told the jurors they must consider the "stand your ground" law. Juror B-37 said in an interview after the verdict that the SYG law forced her to go along with the not-guilty verdict. -- Mother Jones, July 19<br /><br />The defense made a calculated decision not to introduce the SYG law during trial, but because of the jury instruction (which the litigants usually help write, BTW), stand-your-ground determined the outcome. <br /><br />Your assertion that "'stand your ground' law which did not, repeat *not*, form any part of this case" is contrary to fact. Zimmerman's assertion that Martin jumped out from behind the bushes is not consistent with the physical evidence. Because of conflicting accounts, we don't know what really happened. But there are some things we do know, & it would be a good idea not to invent counterfactuals in an attempt to dispute opinions with which you disagree.<br /><br />Marie Burns<br />marieburnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05551898556011521804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-49503249166497458892013-08-24T10:39:39.954-04:002013-08-24T10:39:39.954-04:00I'm not going to let you monopolize my time, D...I'm not going to let you monopolize my time, Duff, but <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/07/stand-your-ground-did-indeed-play-role-zimmerman-trial" rel="nofollow">Stand Your Ground was expressly invoked in the judge's charge to the jury</a> in the Zimmerman trial.<br /><br />And even a Fox News doctor thinks Zimmerman's injuries were superficial, Duff. I'm not going to give you a link. Look it up on my blog. Run up my hit count.<br /><br />And every word Jack Cashill writes is a lie, including "and" an "the."<br /><br />And as for my repeated use of "angry whites": If the shoe fits....Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-70948837462603449842013-08-24T10:26:04.970-04:002013-08-24T10:26:04.970-04:00Buford,
The lead chips are bad enough, but I suspe...Buford,<br />The lead chips are bad enough, but I suspect that a lot of people are also using Mercury dip.<br /><br />Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-19276520965522823472013-08-24T10:01:24.372-04:002013-08-24T10:01:24.372-04:00Hmmm...I see some folks are still eating lead pain...Hmmm...I see some folks are still eating lead paint chips...Bigots will be bigots...Bufordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09562503298407472200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-37734202905983060342013-08-24T09:01:54.209-04:002013-08-24T09:01:54.209-04:00ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZzzzzzzzzzzz...ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZzzzzzzzzzzz...Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.com