tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post7648982597388680444..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: TRUMP, CLINTON, AND THE HOPE GAPSteve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-33774612366922946462016-07-17T11:24:22.619-04:002016-07-17T11:24:22.619-04:00Hey, Joey, I'd like a pet unicorn, too.Hey, Joey, I'd like a pet unicorn, too.<br />Glennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03681336164718681936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-27102869924450889032016-07-15T21:54:50.725-04:002016-07-15T21:54:50.725-04:00@Ten Bears: I don't understand your conclusion...@Ten Bears: I don't understand your conclusion.<br /><br />You would have done the same thing 6-7-wevs years ago?<br /><br />Someone else would have?<br /><br />The two FAILs that IMO make the e-mail server slightly more than a nothing-burger are first, no one with any common sense - and I do mean <b><i>no one</i></b> - mixes personal and business e-mails in the same account (anyone here doing so ... <i>DON'T</i>); second, anyone who has been tarred the way that Hils has been should have the common sense not to delete personal e-mails when you hand your discs over to the gummint. I'm not suggesting that she deleted gummint e-mails; I am suggesting that a moment's forethunk would have delivered the blindingly obvious realization that she wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt.<br /><br />I have no idea why she would do anything so stoopid, but she did, and it doesn't reassure me that she did.<br /><br />The other point that puzzles me is the question, "where was her Security Officer?" Does State not have Security Officers?<br />Jim Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01683702294178406033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-23528148592312338572016-07-15T11:05:48.614-04:002016-07-15T11:05:48.614-04:00I talk to people who think that Hillary personally...<i>I talk to people who think that Hillary personally ordered the terrorist attack on Benghazi!! to kill Americans because Obama hates white people. And then deleted the emails in which she gave the orders.</i><br /><br />I think about a third of the country believes that.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-64180932035346378622016-07-15T09:53:21.047-04:002016-07-15T09:53:21.047-04:00I talk to people who think that Hillary personally...I talk to people who think that Hillary personally ordered the terrorist attack on Benghazi!! to kill Americans because Obama hates white people. And then deleted the emails in which she gave the orders.<br /><br />I can only hope that their numbers limit out at 42%. But, I was thinking that if Trump was a different person, and he picked someone totally opposite from Mike Pence as VP, AND we had a Democratic majority in the house and Senate... I was thinking that it would be FUN to have Trump as president... but that is never gonna..Joey Blauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00185289301820663520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-23124716021304672232016-07-15T09:46:45.421-04:002016-07-15T09:46:45.421-04:00http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clin...http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-leads-trump-diverse-battleground-states-new-polls-n609551<br /><br />Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump in four of the most diverse presidential battleground states, according to brand-new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist polls.<br /><br />Clinton is ahead of Trump by eight points among registered voters in Colorado, 43 percent to 35 percent; a combined 21 percent say neither, other or are undecided.<br /><br />In Florida, which decided the 2000 presidential election, she's up seven points, 44 percent to 37 percent; the rest are undecided or prefer someone else.<br /><br />In North Carolina, a state Obama won in 2008 but lost in 2012, Clinton leads by six points, 44 percent to 38 percent.<br /><br />And in Virginia, Clinton's advantage is nine points, 44 percent to 35 percent.<br /><br />"With 66 electoral votes at stake in these four states, Donald Trump is playing catch-up against Hillary Clinton," says Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion.fqmorrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831433505381045694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-13570427008174224682016-07-15T08:31:04.211-04:002016-07-15T08:31:04.211-04:00I can understand someone voting for Hillary becaus...I can understand someone voting for Hillary because they fear Trump. I can even understand, albeit with more difficulty, someone voting for Hillary because they expect net-positive outcomes from her administration. What I can <i>not</i> understand are those who seek to minimize or even deny outright the stench of corruption and influence peddling that emanates from her and her husband. Spiro Agnew would not be disgraced in their company.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493939044872288977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-66613835708828085702016-07-15T00:15:48.624-04:002016-07-15T00:15:48.624-04:00To those of us who do not support her, this is a b...To those of us who do not support her, this is a bigger nothing-burger than it is for those who do. For the benefit of the newcomers, while I will not vote for her I have defended her; notably speaking from my (retired) day-gig, with advanced degrees in computer and information science and twenty-five years technical analysis, administration and education, knowing what know of the state of computing then, <i> would have done the same damned thing</i>.<br /><br />Nothing-burger.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-34467786035656962372016-07-14T20:12:02.629-04:002016-07-14T20:12:02.629-04:00'How about "she engaged in ill-advised US...'How about "she engaged in ill-advised US foreign policy which failed abysmally in a manner which should have disqualified anyone from the presidency, as it offered no hope for the future, especially seen in context of her previous foreign policy voting record."'<br /><br />No, but I expect you to do well with that warming up the wingnut crowd next week.trnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11288449285041026538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-41471892998198098382016-07-14T19:50:51.751-04:002016-07-14T19:50:51.751-04:00"She engaged in ill-advised secrecy that didn..."She engaged in ill-advised secrecy that didn't really harm anybody, in the process of trying to steer U.S. foreign policy through a rather rough patch. In other words, she's not a bad person at all -- but the narrative doesn't contain much hope."<br /><br /><br />How about "she engaged in ill-advised US foreign policy which failed abysmally in a manner which should have disqualified anyone from the presidency, as it offered no hope for the future, especially seen in context of her previous foreign policy voting record."KenRighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02861276158382647529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-55693521550534318192016-07-14T16:17:46.863-04:002016-07-14T16:17:46.863-04:00Trump is pollibg with zero African- American suppo...Trump is pollibg with zero African- American suppory in several states. Zero. This isn't 1968. Trump declaring himself Law&Order would work today if the demographics were the same as 68, but they aren't.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-54858475349191464052016-07-14T15:05:48.558-04:002016-07-14T15:05:48.558-04:00No, we should not have nominated Sanders. His camp...No, we should not have nominated Sanders. His campaign was like the mathematician whose proof included the step, "And then a miracle occurs." When the miracle failed to materialize, he fell back on, "if you're not with me you're corrupt by definition." Feh.<br /><br />Clinton is flawed, just like you and me, and we know about every single damn one of her flaws, real and invented, because they've been magnified 100x on a Fox News JumboTron for the last 20-odd years. I'll still take her over any Republican and any shouting male, any day of the week.Luciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02344151648498823945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-7846371479740330732016-07-14T14:58:24.382-04:002016-07-14T14:58:24.382-04:00Yeah, OK, the NYT/CBS poll is unsettling.
Still, ...Yeah, OK, the NYT/CBS poll is unsettling.<br /><br />Still, if the best that Trump can do is pull even after a week in which the FBI director took a dump on Hillary, and a lunatic massacred 5 cops in Dallas ... I don't see the problem.<br /><br />Well, a problem with the American electorate. OK, grounds for concern <i>there</i> ... but not November.<br /><br />Srsly, it's a good guess - it might even be correct! - that the Replicants have nothing else to tar Hils with, or they'd be using it. Heck, they're going to devote one night of the RNC Convention to Benghazi and another to celebrate Bill's penis. I don't know whether that's desperation or der Drumpenführer's impeccable good taste ... but it's unlikely to win any new votes.<br /><br />Feud laid out the, uh, challenges Trump will be facing between now and November. I'm not seeing any problems for Hils that we don't already know about.<br /><br />No, seriously, what else is there? Replicants have been investigating her since the early 1990s, and the only "scandal" that's stuck is the e-mail server own-goal?!?<br /><br />Externalities - a new 9/11, the economy suddenly taking a dive.<br /><br />@Tom Hilton - yep. Reporting says a lot of Dems think the e-mail server thing is a big deal. They won't vote for Trump. If the election were held today, they might not vote. But they'll come back between now and November.<br /><br />@Careaga: "discipline" - TPM is saying that Trump's saying he doesn't need to pivot to the general election ... it's even possible that the narrowing of the race has convinced him that he's doing the right thing. Ah tells ya, the man is a legend in his own mind.<br /><br /><br /><br />Jim Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01683702294178406033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-84761540532912428442016-07-14T14:50:29.148-04:002016-07-14T14:50:29.148-04:00She has my vote but we should have nominated Sande...She has my vote but we should have nominated Sanders. He doesn't have Clinton's baggage and he was a better choice for our time.pbriggsiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07782352132658108300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-15755180378737267252016-07-14T14:14:56.599-04:002016-07-14T14:14:56.599-04:00I am tired of this sky is falling bullshit. Romne...I am tired of this sky is falling bullshit. Romney took 60% of the white vote and lost handily. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01000185055565175530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-21948717813245385012016-07-14T14:05:33.857-04:002016-07-14T14:05:33.857-04:00if Trump sustains the (for him) discipline of the ...<i>if Trump sustains the (for him) discipline of the past week</i><br /><br />That would presumably be the same discipline he exhibited when, after asserting that the Black Lives Matter crowd called for a moment of silence to honor the Dallas sniper, he sensibly refrained from adding that in any event they couldn't speak because they were feasting on the flesh of blonde Christian infants.<br /><br />I get it, Steve. You're going to worry from now through election day. It's what you do, and that's fine, and none of us should be complacent. But you know, you needn't spend any of your finite energy fretting over The Donald's message discipline. He'd need a regular course of antipsychotics to maintain that, and it would take the edge off the delivery his base craves.<br />Rand Careagahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04993454654652802173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-28923709342939059382016-07-14T13:37:32.785-04:002016-07-14T13:37:32.785-04:00I think Greg Sargent has it right: 42% or so is Tr...I think Greg Sargent has it right: 42% or so is Trump's ceiling. Clinton has lost some support in the most recent polls, but the fact that it <i>isn't</i> going to Trump is more important than the fluctuation itself. Tom Hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17575511424823512042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-85853377062000084172016-07-14T12:43:00.353-04:002016-07-14T12:43:00.353-04:00Were any of the polls conducted in states where Hi...Were any of the polls conducted in states where Hillary is airing her ads? The ads were focusing on how nice of a person she was? Has that been effective?Stellourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00778153163852437649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-22485676763163382002016-07-14T11:40:22.832-04:002016-07-14T11:40:22.832-04:00Dennis is permanently banned.Dennis is permanently banned.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-36080290116813513692016-07-14T11:37:36.360-04:002016-07-14T11:37:36.360-04:00So then, Dennis: it's Trump and so the end to ...So then, Dennis: it's Trump and so the end to the American project? <br /><br />Steve M, it's frggin' JULY, mate. Read what Sam Wang has to say about polling between February and October.<br /><br />OTOH if you're really trying to say <br /><br />Give me back my broken night, my mirrored room, my secret life. It's lonely here: there's no one left to torture. Give me absolute control over every living soul, and lie beside me, baby: that's an order! <br />Give me crack and anal sex; take the only tree that's left and stuff it up the hole in your culture. <br />Give me back the Berlin wall. Give me Stalin and St Paul. I've seen the future, brother: it is murder.<br /><br />I can certainly see that coming.Feud Turgidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379322096770703017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-43008757027469966912016-07-14T11:24:50.615-04:002016-07-14T11:24:50.615-04:00I would assume Clinton's message once she has ...I would assume Clinton's message once she has a VP nominee to handle the attacks will be on the "better angels of our nature" line. That's not hope exactly, but it does appeal to the electorate's boundless if incorrect self-esteem.<br />I do not think anything but another Great Depression on Trump's watch could shake the American belief that rich Republicans know more about the economy than anyone else. And even then I doubt it would.AllieGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994768860067988405noreply@blogger.com