tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post618806484666645147..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: NO, THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A "LASTING SPLIT" IN THE GOP AFTER 2016Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-28709689213575668022016-01-11T11:53:24.985-05:002016-01-11T11:53:24.985-05:00Extremism never hurts them for long because by the...Extremism never hurts them for long because by the next election cycle what was extreme has become mainstream.Professor Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07983291640844939759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-2025554868690419582016-01-11T03:59:15.695-05:002016-01-11T03:59:15.695-05:00A character in one of Iain Banks' novels once ...A character in one of Iain Banks' novels once theorized that conservatives - right-wing people in general - tend to think everybody's as nasty, as selfish, deep down as they are. Only they're wrong. And liberals, socialists and so on like to think everybody else is as nice, basically, as they themselves are. They're wrong too.Chai T. Ch'uanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10956478299220539612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-35215086326392790922016-01-10T22:12:40.721-05:002016-01-10T22:12:40.721-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-82140708328039803382016-01-10T22:11:50.015-05:002016-01-10T22:11:50.015-05:00Stupid smart phone. A pint, at the Pub. And no, I ...Stupid smart phone. A pint, at the Pub. And no, I didn't but a lottery ticket, I didn't buy one.<br /><br />See again, 1984.<br /><br />Sincerely, not nice.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-54130619842291418522016-01-10T22:08:10.270-05:002016-01-10T22:08:10.270-05:00Not a gambin' man (didn't even but a lotte...Not a gambin' man (didn't even but a lottery ticket last night*), I'm willing to bet a punt at the Pub we are witnessing, in painful slow motion, the end of the republic party.<br /><br />Don't cum all over yourselves, it may be the end of the democrat as well.<br /><br />* There's a couple paragraphs up at (not necessarily a fan) Lawyers, Guns and Money about the lottery... in 1984.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-65492796715929008302016-01-10T20:55:26.149-05:002016-01-10T20:55:26.149-05:00Is this the GOP plan?
1. Announce brokered convent...Is this the GOP plan?<br />1. Announce brokered convention DONE<br />2. Continue rabble-rousing debates (while conducting under the table bargaining with candidates for cabinet posts, i.e.VP, Carson Surgeon General, etc. & distribution of campaign $...) <br />3. Unity plea @ convention (Mitt's role as senior "statesman")<br />4. Gov Walker announces WI as Fav. Son Ryan (wonderful coincidence since WI is so far down the alphabet & it all harkens to the grand old conference custom for states' rights pretense & honors Teabagger Govs)<br />5. Speaker Paul Ryan is GOP Presidential Nominee<br /><br />Ryan won't wait for 2nd term challenge-Dem or GOP president, too chancy/disloyal). He could/cannot succeed as Speaker & everyone knew/knows it. After the failed VP run, Ryan is not going to waste this opportunity to be the voice of tomorrow's GOP. Accepting the Speakership was only to renew his visibility & enhance credibility as 3rd in line to be President. If republican electronic ballot tabulation fraud targets are underestimated because voter participation is higher than anticipated, Ryan could lose the presidential election without losing stature as GOP House leader. (He doesn't need to relinquish his WI Rep campaign to run as Pres). However with luck, better leadership than Wasserman & insufficient republican ballot tabulation fraud, he could lose the Speakership too.<br /><br />I suspect the nomination guarantee was a non-public requirement (not open to negociation) before accepting "temp" job as House Speaker.<br /><br />GOP needs to script surprise & drama into GOP celebration because the entertainment value of debates has upped the ante and conventions have lost viewers, i.e. airtime for advertisers who are GOP patrons.<br /><br />Outside convention hall American Protestors will be attacked by CLE police & GOP Private Security.Pallihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610910291627363042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-46937073244403686062016-01-10T18:25:15.903-05:002016-01-10T18:25:15.903-05:00There was a Sean Trende article in 2013 I believe ...There was a Sean Trende article in 2013 I believe about how there were 5-8 million white northern working class voters who did not come out to vote in 2012 because they found the plutocrat Romney unattractive and the Republican economic agenda (low taxes, free trade, deregulation, and "reforming" social security and medicare) not in their interest. Also, they did not believe Romney on immigration. He wrote that a candidate more attuned to their interests and resentments could get them out to vote and boost the White Republican vote so much that they could disregard the Hispanic vote as much as they disregard the Black vote. Cruz and Trump appear to be such candidates. Hilary will have to run a hell of a campaign, in the teeth of a lot MSM media types like Maureen Dowd and Ron Fournier who hate her guts, to get close to Obama's 2012 voting numbers and electoral college numbers. She is already losing in Iowa, Wisonsin, and Colorado, all states Obama won.rickstersherpa@msn.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14489905720399087036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-59773669095093797312016-01-10T16:13:36.497-05:002016-01-10T16:13:36.497-05:00But still . . . every four years, the white percen...<i>But still . . . every four years, the white percentage of the electorate does decrease by about 2%. In 2016, it is predicted to be only 70% of the national vote. Even if the Republicans can capture 60% of the white vote - something that neither party has accomplished since Reagan ran for re-election in 1984 - they'd still have to capture 30% of the non-white vote.</i><br /><br />Well, whites already capture 60% of the white vote (actually 59% in 2012, according to the exit polls -- see <a href="http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). I'm talking about improving on that, while nonwhites either feel less motivated to vote or (because of the GOP vote suppression schemes) can't vote. And all that seems feasible for the GOP.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-78272694510664903442016-01-10T15:50:27.862-05:002016-01-10T15:50:27.862-05:00I dunno -- I understand what the polls are saying ...I dunno -- I understand what the polls are saying now, but I'm also looking at the electoral demographics for 2016. I'm also reading Perlstein's "Before the Storm", about the rise of Barry Goldwater.<br /><br />The Draft Goldwater movement was based on a Southern Strategy (which the GOP, of course, would go on to pursue relentlessly), which argued that the GOP nomination could be clinched without worrying about New York and the Northeast, and by simply writing off black voters. According to Perlstein, a conservative responding to complaints "we'd be the apartheid party," explained: "This isn't South Africa, the white man outnumbers the Negro 9 to 1." Of course, that may have been true back then, but it certainly isn't true now.<br /><br />And I know, I know . . . people have been predicting the GOP's demographic demise for a long time now. But still . . . every four years, the white percentage of the electorate does decrease by about 2%. In 2016, it is predicted to be only 70% of the national vote. Even if the Republicans can capture 60% of the white vote - something that neither party has accomplished since Reagan ran for re-election in 1984 - they'd still have to capture 30% of the non-white vote.<br /><br />Don't mistake me . . . I'm certainly not arguing for complacency in the presidential election; the Dems still do need to make the effort to GOTV - nothing is inevitable. And, to be sure, even though in a national contest the demographics are promising, it certainly isn't the case that this is going to have much of an impact on the carefully gerrymandered congressional districts. The Dems won't be taking back the House this year. Finally, all of the above presupposes that the GOP's ongoing voter suppression efforts are not overly effective - never a safe supposition.<br /><br />Still, I keep looking at the changing face of the America electorate, and the relentless march of the numbers cheers my considerably.Swellsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14081366954207653398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-63483234170883953982016-01-10T13:11:22.384-05:002016-01-10T13:11:22.384-05:00Sadly, how righ... correct you are, Steve!
The fe...Sadly, how righ... correct you are, Steve!<br /><br />The fears, hatreds, resentments, and thus, bigotry, of white people, are what has been driving the GOP for over a half century now.<br />And it's not as if they've had no successes in the past 50 years!<br /><br />Now, thanks to the vote suppression in some key states, even a snarling bigot like Trump, or "Christian" zealot and demagogue like Cruz, can see a path to victory.<br /><br />If either of them win, they'll fundamentally change the America we grew up in, and make it look like the early 20th Century one.<br />Only there'll be no Teddy Roosevelt. Only Ted Cruz.<br /><br />Oy...Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.com