tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post3985425308541760969..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-25937913883956727772014-01-19T12:04:00.995-05:002014-01-19T12:04:00.995-05:00Erase them. Make no mention of them at all. Label ...Erase them. Make no mention of them at all. Label them, if you must, Moron. Moron One, Moron Two, on down the line. Deny them the dignity of ever having existed.<br /><br />I disagree, a, a bit on pregnancy. The Church has long used pirnography (and crotch-shots on Fox) to enforce the Cult of Male Domination, to normalize the subjugation of women. Indeed, for the Jew/"Christian"/Muslim/Mormon Cult of Male Domination bare foot and pregnant is optimum. Your television reality shows serve to glorify, leading many troubled teens to seek it out as solace for their perceived, indeed induced, misery. Reality shows serve as well as dog-whistles in the class war. I'd argue they should be banned, but I'm the guy a judge once gave me a choice: a tv, or my pistol. I kept the pistol.<br /><br />No fear.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-25746014262499264992014-01-19T09:37:12.454-05:002014-01-19T09:37:12.454-05:00I'd also like to point out that it isn't g...I'd also like to point out that it isn't going to be a question of "stop/not stop"--if the theory is correct only that portion of the mass shootings that are fame related will stop. There's no evidence that all or even most of the killings are related to fame seeking on a national or international scale. But it may cut down on some copy cat style incidents.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-16591884741672830462014-01-18T20:04:53.344-05:002014-01-18T20:04:53.344-05:00My avatar is ironic...My avatar is ironic...Darohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02965288170032365125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-36301349728429262542014-01-18T20:04:19.481-05:002014-01-18T20:04:19.481-05:00Yeah, it's the fame that's a key driver, I...Yeah, it's the fame that's a key driver, I'm convinced. They even made movies of people like the Zodiac Killer. What a thrill for a loser nobody! It's down to perverse incentives. Anonymise them and the rate will drop off at least somewhat. If it reduces even one mass killing then it's worth it..Darohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02965288170032365125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-26693170229280627842014-01-18T15:36:28.729-05:002014-01-18T15:36:28.729-05:00Yeah, I agree. I think its a ridiculous argument t...Yeah, I agree. I think its a ridiculous argument that totally confuses correlation with causation. To the extent that a young person wants "fame" it probably isn't "was mentioned in the NYT" but rather, as you point out, a kind of sub cultural or niche fame and that can even depend on doing something that only a select few find out about or publishing what you are going to do to a narrow band of people that matter to you. People don't thrill kill or mass kill to get publicity at all, half the time, or not in this rather conventional sense.<br /><br />This rather reminds me of the same argument which is being made right now about the reality tv shows that show actual teen mothers and teen pregnancies. A certain percentage of the country (I won't tag it as right or left) assumes that all publicity is good publicity from the point of view of the person who gets to be in front of a camera. There is also some notion that these girls lead such debased and meaningless lives that living their lives on camera is some kind of celebrity step up for them which they would actively seek for by getting pregnant. And, the argument goes, they will have a lot of imitators--girls who would otherwise not get pregnant as teens--because of the assumption of reflected glamor and/or normalization. But, as it turns out, this is backwards. A recent study has argued that in places where the show is seen teenage pregnancy has gone down. Why? Because seeing the results of the unplanned or planned pregnancy, seeing the social and financial fallout, gives girls and boys a chance to talk about what they want out of life with their sexual partners. It gives them a glimpse into a "what if" world in which they have accidentally or on purpose gotten pregnant in highschool.<br /><br />So you might just as well argue that public discussion of these mass shootings and/or publication of the names and identities of these kids will lead to a decrease over time in mass killings as some people see themselves in these killers and get help, or people start to have a conversation about the kids hey know who need help.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-72951183448724449552014-01-18T15:34:45.618-05:002014-01-18T15:34:45.618-05:00My fear is that anonymity will lead to less covera...My fear is that anonymity will lead to less coverage of the carnage they cause.<br /><br />But I do like the idea of only mentioning the name once a newscast for the first few days.<br /><br />Maybe that way, "limited anonymity" will point out the banal causes of these evils and deaths.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.com