tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post173040556324823235..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-29420973812872040332012-11-12T11:45:21.842-05:002012-11-12T11:45:21.842-05:00Hate these people not because of their gender or s...<i> Hate these people not because of their gender or sexual orientation or skin color, but because they are using the government to steal everything you have. Hate the parasitism, not the people. </i><br /><br />An excellent policy to adopt toward banksters. I shall begin at once! Thank you, sir.Lex Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05364989805025038306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-51357301173821947592012-11-08T17:59:58.710-05:002012-11-08T17:59:58.710-05:00"I'm concerned that the same thing is beg..."I'm concerned that the same thing is beginning to happen with the right's "makers vs. takers" meme, with the "takers" described as people who just want "free stuff" from government."<br /><br />Steve, ain't you heard? The Socialist Gubmint's gonna give each one of us takers a genuine great big nylon rip-proof swag bag, with Barack Ovama's picture on it. And forget taking stuff from the Gubmint. We're gonna be allowed to walk into the homes of any makers we like and take their stuff. I've been thinking about what I'm gonna carry out from some rich dude's home in my own swag bag:<br /><br />First, I'm gonna grab somebody's gun. Mind you, I'm not gonna take it. I'm gonna grab it.<br /><br />Then I'm gonna get me a passbook from an offshore bank account. You know what I mean. Gran Cayman Savings and Loan Association, or Community Farmers and Goatherd;s Bank of Zurich, or some[place like that. And you can bet I'm gonna take the free beach chair they must give you when you open an account there for $40 million.<br /><br />Finally, I'm gonna stuff my swag bag with a great big pile of stock options. And maybe also with a mink coat for a hot woman I know.<br /><br />Then I'm gonna call my boss and say, "Take your job and shove it. I'm not touching anything greasy any more. You go tell Mitt to fix his own damn car elevator."<br /><br />Crankily yours,<br />The New York Crank<br />The New York Crankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489472134701718697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-8506402028157390922012-11-08T16:02:41.067-05:002012-11-08T16:02:41.067-05:00Hah...I see that Steve said exactly that yesterday...Hah...I see that Steve said exactly that yesterday.: smintheus ::https://www.blogger.com/profile/06280030649524520605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-67135148264202462322012-11-08T16:00:46.664-05:002012-11-08T16:00:46.664-05:00If Republicans keep spewing hatred at the half of ...If Republicans keep spewing hatred at the half of America that voted for Obama, they may finally manage to discredit themselves permanently. They've gone beyond sneering at 47% in the last two days; they're into "God Damn America" territory.: smintheus ::https://www.blogger.com/profile/06280030649524520605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-24238232619406858442012-11-08T15:05:50.235-05:002012-11-08T15:05:50.235-05:00Holy crap, Philo. You're right. And in an im...Holy crap, Philo. You're right. And in an important way. Thanks for pulling me back to earth.Raenellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031586239927965106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-91453729817953523092012-11-08T15:05:39.356-05:002012-11-08T15:05:39.356-05:00Joe the Plumber a forgotten footnote?
He ran for ...Joe the Plumber a forgotten footnote?<br /><br />He ran for the House in 2012 and got over 66,000 votes (out of approx. 285,000 cast).<br /><br />We haven't heard the last of this slaphead grifter.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17803231988989969133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-73789494708417291952012-11-08T13:36:47.444-05:002012-11-08T13:36:47.444-05:00RAenelle, you have omitted entirely the class bias...RAenelle, you have omitted entirely the class bias in practise of the rule, "everyone for himself."Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-51193741567786460722012-11-08T12:34:41.520-05:002012-11-08T12:34:41.520-05:00This has been the essential argument against democ...This has been the essential argument against democracy since Thucydides took after Cleon the Tanner. It was the inspiration of the elites to oppose the Confederation and call a Constitutional Convention. It's an ancient argument, and I think we should meet it on its merits. The Republican philosophy is Hurray for me, and fuck you. That's what unregulated capitalism is too. In its naked form, it's selfishness itself and very unattractive. That's why Republicans end up essentially opposing democracy. That's why they are always in search for cultural wedge issues that distract from their essential "I got mine, and I'm not sharing." We should point to it directly, describe it accurately, and then do everything we can to make sure that the voting apparatus is safe from the undemocratic forces.Raenellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031586239927965106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-13292872740639113002012-11-08T11:09:49.120-05:002012-11-08T11:09:49.120-05:00Yeah, I don't see how this is different than t...Yeah, I don't see how this is different than the state of affairs we've had for decades. Republicans are Republicans because they think it's not fair that someone is getting a free ride from the government while they themselves work hard and get screwed. Other than that, it's a party of rich people and religious crazies, the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-82372756131175589612012-11-08T10:19:53.223-05:002012-11-08T10:19:53.223-05:00Now every individual Democratic voter is the Antic...<i>Now every individual Democratic voter is the Antichrist. Every individual Democratic voter is a bloodsucking leech.</i> <br /><br />And this is different from before how?<br /><br />Liberalism has long been a mental disease to these people, and all of us are forfeit. I'm not seeing anything new hereUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15177244383903282305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-72299438435389673672012-11-08T10:12:24.075-05:002012-11-08T10:12:24.075-05:00Or reminding people that Romney and other 1%ers: T...Or reminding people that Romney and other 1%ers: TAKE money out of the American banking system and commercial circulation to store tax havens;<br />TAKE jobs out of the US to avoid paying even the federal minimum wage to Americans;<br />TAKE tax deductions for expenses of lifestyle choices only the wealthy could afford anyway,<br />etc.<br />Sorry, for the caps but the Romney's take a lot from the United States. PalliPallihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610910291627363042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-70667226597994480562012-11-08T10:10:28.728-05:002012-11-08T10:10:28.728-05:00Essentially, we need to keep asking conservatives ...Essentially, we need to keep asking conservatives the question that is absolute kryptonite to them: "Can you give some examples of what you're talking about?"<br /><br />Once they have to provide actual nouns and verbs to prove what they're saying, they change the subject real quick. Even Our Media Stars have gotten (a little) better at this. Once Mitt Romney put a number on his disdain, it was poisonous.<br /><br />On the other hand, I am worried about their limitless potential for self-delusion:<br /><br />"The anti-busers insisted that the battle was about "neighborhood schools," not race, even as they threw rocks at school buses carrying black children."<br /><br />I bet 99% of those rock-throwers would have been grievously offended at the suggestion that they were racists. Because they were throwing rocks at the buses, you see, not the kids.<br /><br />And that was before Fox News and Rush Limbaugh were around to tell them they were right.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16137423464577067869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-80749402433549465452012-11-08T08:43:26.699-05:002012-11-08T08:43:26.699-05:00All the same, we really do need to combat the idea...All the same, we really do need to combat the idea of the right, with their Ayn Rand and their bumper-stickers, that socialism is about spending - much less stealing - other people's money.<br /><br />We can do this by reminding people that the government actually has the right to tax people for purposes of which they might not personally approve, and this is not theft even if the purpose is to improve the lot of someone else.<br /><br />Another is to point out that what someone legally has, pre-tax, is not what is "rightfully his," much less what he deserves or is his fair share.<br /><br />In the case of the rich what they have pre-tax far exceeds their fair share and what is rightfully theirs.<br /><br />In the case of everybody else it is far less.<br /><br />And at the same time we need to combat the idea that it makes good sense to leave all the decision-making about how society's wealth, and that means society's work, is spent to the uncoordinated choices of individuals, some of them highly privileged individuals, rather than making the chief part of those decisions a matter of collective social choice through democratic politics.<br /><br />The results of radical individualism are not merely unjust.<br /><br />They are also stupid.Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-43707986191900449572012-11-08T08:28:09.759-05:002012-11-08T08:28:09.759-05:00This stuff about socialism is very old hat.
Gold...This stuff about socialism is very old hat. <br /><br />Goldwater and Reagan both called Medicare socialism and even Soviet Communism.<br /><br />The correct reply is that socialism is a good thing and the even some features of Soviet Communism were good things, too.<br /><br />Not that truth works at all in US politics.Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-8527048384756312642012-11-08T08:17:39.475-05:002012-11-08T08:17:39.475-05:00...bigotry gets power from pretending not to be bi...<i>...bigotry gets power from pretending not to be bigotry.</i><br /><br />Amen! And I'm so glad to know that as a woman I'm not a member of the white establishment, despite being almost blindingly white. There's some snark in my comment, but truly I am glad not to be part of a group that sees everyone else as the "Other".Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651455277401911296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-48795452242950931372012-11-08T08:12:41.314-05:002012-11-08T08:12:41.314-05:00Yeah, I agree, Steve.
A lot of these people are ra...Yeah, I agree, Steve.<br />A lot of these people are rage junkies, who crave power, and always want to be on the winning side. They live to stomp on other people - whether it's metaphorically, or for real.<br /><br />Why can't they all just "Go Galt!" and leave ther rest of us alone?<br />Oh yeah - see above.<br /><br /><br />Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.com