tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post7523452496420163012..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: WILL TRUMP IN THE DEBATES BE REALLY TERRIBLE FOR THE GOP? ALAS, PROBABLY NOT.Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-86368475923177564642015-06-19T20:25:36.253-04:002015-06-19T20:25:36.253-04:00If people are wondering what kind of damage Trump ...If people are wondering what kind of damage Trump can do, just try excluding him from the debates. I think Trump will create massive damage if the haters try anything funny....Trump has more money than God and knows people in ever circle in the world to exact lethal revenge to the peril of many haters.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17378587850496463647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-9617852670082893812015-06-18T09:44:24.087-04:002015-06-18T09:44:24.087-04:00In my opinion Trump coming in, as he is, at this p...In my opinion Trump coming in, as he is, at this point, is absolutely yoooge, most probably. It's unclear at this stage exactly how yoooge: it could be mega yoooge, could be medium average yoooge, or could be in that Trump sweet spot between those two. But it's most definitely not at all small potatoes, loserville, minor leagues yoooge; absolutely, it'll be some level of world-class yoooge, that's a guarantee.Feud Turgidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379322096770703017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-35991181738157957282015-06-18T06:10:35.542-04:002015-06-18T06:10:35.542-04:00Repubs definitely have a knack for walking away re...Repubs definitely have a knack for walking away relatively unscathed from the crapstorms they create, but I'm not sure the examples of McMillan or Brown really apply here. How many voters had heard of either of them before they ran for office? Trump has been a household name for 30 years. I typed Do into google a few minutes ago and it auto-filled Donald Trump, and I've never done any search on him before. He pushed former republican candidates out of the top ten in some polls as soon as he announced.<br /><br />I think he starts out with the ability to make his competition a lot more uncomfortable than McMillan and Brown made theirs.trnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11288449285041026538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-12966903513959288032015-06-17T15:57:42.145-04:002015-06-17T15:57:42.145-04:00I believe the candidate who smacks Trump down, som...I believe the candidate who smacks Trump down, somebody will, gets the GOP nomination. Except Christie. He can smack Trump down, you know one Fat Bully smacking anotherer Bully. Fat Bully wins but is just that. A Fat Bully. nd a loser.Popshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642698995394616344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-76085180817127293552015-06-17T14:56:18.800-04:002015-06-17T14:56:18.800-04:00John Taylor, why is that you think Trump "has...John Taylor, why is that you think Trump "has to show his financials"? Mitt de Romney Georgeson didn't (or eventually did so in such an unconventional & unsatisfactory manner it amounted to much the same effect as just brazening it out).<br /><br />Trump had 15 days from announcing to file his candidacy. First let's see if he does that. That may SEEM a perfunctory step, but in fact even just that holds SOME financial disclosure obligations (tho nothing a candidate with a even a measley million in campaign funding, leave aside a self-styled noctabillionaire, is going to find taxing).<br /><br />Next, Trump's got to build and fund an organization within the several states where doing that has some potential effect on finding, building on and turning out Trump voters. I'd guess him to make a big splash, more likely several, over campaign organization hires, but the costs associated with those salaries are pretty minor in the scheme of things; the big money outflow is in grassroots, which I very much doubt Trump will spend on. We'll get to see that non-event happening, sure somewhat after the fact, off perusal of his mandatory filings on campaign expenses.<br /><br />Then at some point during the extended pre-primaries debate faux wars and into the meat portion of the RNC regular primary season, Trump starts to have problems: he has business interests to attend to. Besides having to move constantly to keep from his doors the packs of bankruptcy attorney wolves that constantly stalk him (not a problem you'd expect any sort of ACTUAL billionaire to suffer from, but there you are), he has a TV show to produce, and he has foregone Fox pundit cash flow to replace (again: petty cash, one would think, to an ACTUAL billionaire, but, again, there you are).<br /><br />If I were put a bet, it would be that Trump's out before the first primary after SC at the latest, more likely before even the first overall, in a positive flurry of colorized hair extensions amidst reports of 'concerns' being expressed about he quality of his campaign's latest financial disclosure.<br /><br />Otherwise, I'm almost entirely with Steve M.'s take - expect that I think that every candidate polling within the GOP faithful higher than Trump plus the GOP itself will consider his involvement to have been a net positive for getting rid of the minnows.Feud Turgidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379322096770703017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-23912174454964315362015-06-17T13:26:21.760-04:002015-06-17T13:26:21.760-04:00I would love to see the Donald in the debates but ...I would love to see the Donald in the debates but it probably won't happen. He'll drop out before he has to show his financials. The whole thing is just self-promotion for the Trump brand.John Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17986833434755638518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-72883462294854997942015-06-17T13:11:34.797-04:002015-06-17T13:11:34.797-04:00I think that he's getting into the race so tha...I think that he's getting into the race so that none of the other candidates will ask him for money.petrillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17889489779105405703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-46187878448920232015-06-17T12:39:39.642-04:002015-06-17T12:39:39.642-04:00The clown examples you cite from 2012 are basicall...The clown examples you cite from 2012 are basically just people saying stupid stuff that's mostly damaging to themselves. Trump could bluster aggressively in a way that puts other candidates awkwardly on the spot. He could force errors. I doubt he'll be a major factor in the campaign, but he'll add friction where party leaders and frontrunners would prefer smooth and easy. Even if he's not in the campaign long, he'll ruin a few days for other candidates. He'll aggravate some ulcers, and maybe even cause a few. That's worth something to me.Curt Purcellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12580782572650471362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-76723537842621009042015-06-17T11:58:42.859-04:002015-06-17T11:58:42.859-04:00I hope you're right Steve. It would warm my h...I hope you're right Steve. It would warm my heart to see King John get booed off the stage by the GOP rabble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-77374867098969492892015-06-17T11:31:58.747-04:002015-06-17T11:31:58.747-04:00I don't think most of the other Republican can...I don't think most of the other Republican candidates are really "serious" about winning the White House either.Professor Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07983291640844939759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-4000040204254905222015-06-17T10:21:39.705-04:002015-06-17T10:21:39.705-04:00Kasich could be a dangerously electable general e...Kasich could be a dangerously electable general election candidate. But as I discovered when I was writing <a href="http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/04/stop-trying-to-make-john-kasich-happen.html" rel="nofollow">this post,</a> much of the GOP base doesn't trust Kasich and many of the billionaires don't trust him either. As far as they're concerned, he's just too conciliatory.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-6467775025377582882015-06-17T10:13:52.320-04:002015-06-17T10:13:52.320-04:00The "damage" I see Trump potentially doi...The "damage" I see Trump potentially doing has everything to do with the popularity contest that the GOP is trying to use to restrict access to the debates. If Trump is polling high enough to knock someone else out of the debates that's going to cause some friction and could hopefully cause some intra-party knock-on infighting. That's the kind of trouble I'm thinking we can get from a Trump vanity run.<br /><br />Damage from the actual debates will be nonexistent, except to the extent that "yet another looney" on the stage forces the top candidates into embracing stupid memes to court the crazybase. And, frankly, there are enough looneys among the voting base of the GOP at this point that that's going to happen whether Trump is up on stage or not.<br /><br />(In my fondest dreams Trump sucks up enough air out of the room that King John Kasich from Ohio can't get his foot in the door. After watching Jeb! turn out to be possibly dumber than his brother, and Walker turn out to have the political chops of a pork chop, Kasich is about the only Republican I'm worried about. Though who knows? Throw him up on a stage with Ben Carson and Donald Trump and he might turn out to handle the inanity just as poorly as Walker and Jeb! have been managing...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-10250028184186493062015-06-17T09:28:48.315-04:002015-06-17T09:28:48.315-04:00Trump is a media performance artist.
The rest of t...Trump is a media performance artist.<br />The rest of the GOP's candidates and potential candidates, are political performance artists.<br /><br />And, yeah, sadly, I think you're right, Steve - Trump won't do near as much damage as we wish he would. Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.com