tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post708022150344167811..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-613899450540200212013-09-17T11:14:54.788-04:002013-09-17T11:14:54.788-04:00@exterminator
I would broadly agree with you but ...@exterminator<br /><br />I would broadly agree with you but point out that Labor hasn't actually changed its rules to allow rank and file voting for party leader yet. In fact it seems unlikely that it will as it would be turkeys voting for Xmas.paulocanninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499916652508144662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-23726792298928411962013-09-13T20:24:03.514-04:002013-09-13T20:24:03.514-04:00Um Gentlemens and Victor ;-) ,
Liberalism does no...Um Gentlemens and Victor ;-) ,<br />Liberalism does not= left leaning, socialist et al. that is pure misdirection (spin.) trying to define and stifle any real discussion/ change. <br /><br />The Liberals tend to be socially more left than the conservatives but fiscally conservative, pro business.<br /> <br />For example sake Australia has just elected a “Conservative” leaning government.(that is the 'Liberal Party' it was founded on Liberalism as opposed to a conservatism) The Liberals and the Liberal Democrats in England are somewhere in between the Conservatives and the Labour party.<br /><br />The Australian Labor Party (note the US spelling was in sympathy for the 1890 US Labor union wars) and the English Labour Party are essentially WORKERS (union) based parties and tend to be socially inclined and less pro corporate.<br /><br />The Aussie Labor party has opened up to ballot for parliamentary leader to the rank and file of the party. Previously it was the same as the Liberals/conservatives chosen by the parliamentary representatives and the unelected hierarchy. <br />BTW Most Democrat parties world wide do this as part of their under pinning political philosophy. <br /><br />I mention all this not to lecture but to illustrate how the US right (read conservatives) have appropriated unfavourable ( expansive/ 'dangerous' to the maintenance of THEIR power) terms/ concepts have oversimplified and blurred them out of consideration.<br /><br />Consider the impact on political conversations when the choices are between Hard right (conservative)and right (liberal.... aka US Democrat)<br />A clear example is that Unions , social services like Universal health and fire arm control are either tolerated or dirty terms. Yet in other countries where the choice is between Conservative lite and “Leftish?' worker parties the hard core conservative right all but a minority. With the choices being between right lite and leftish the above services are considered rights. Attempts to take them away and there is a massive voter back lash. e.g. a ten year popular Liberal Government was trashed at the election because it's leader tried to alter the industrial laws to the pro business like in the US. Their leader was only the second sitting leader PM Not to hold his seat. <br />NB I am not saying that the Westminster system is better. Rather that that US electoral choices are clearly far more tilted the other way. <br />NB both England, Australia and a myriad of other countries has Universal (nation wide) suffrage … in other words states can't monkey with the right to vote (see ALEC red state restrictive boiler plate laws). If you are entitled to vote in one district /state you have the same right in all. <br /><br />I also note that there is considerable misdirection bias in what the term internationalist actually means. <br /><br />In one sense the US is already isolationist well not internationalist … it doesn't recognize international law jurisdiction over it's self. Interestingly enough the US would have been crushed in it's war of independence if it wasn't for internationalism. <br /><br />The US could be so much more but misses out on so much because of its insular superiority complex.<br /><br /> Examinatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990595916031900662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-16218896023483414502013-09-13T15:57:34.778-04:002013-09-13T15:57:34.778-04:00I like Grayson, but he lost credibility on this wh...I like Grayson, but he lost credibility on this when in his NY Times column he cited The Daily Caller as to evidence against Syria's use of gas.Peter Janovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07590229306105292675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-24994180389134581062013-09-13T15:49:11.975-04:002013-09-13T15:49:11.975-04:00"Isolationist and immoral"?
Oh, boo hoo..."Isolationist and immoral"?<br /><br />Oh, boo hoo. He spoke crossly.Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-11224062338811557132013-09-13T15:41:02.182-04:002013-09-13T15:41:02.182-04:00"A core tenet of liberalism is the belief tha..."A core tenet of liberalism is the belief that active government should take responsibility in alleviating or preventing the suffering of others."<br /><br />Other AMERICANS.<br /><br />Our compatriots and fellow-citizens.Philo Vaihingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150326435392881297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-44955959060425539252013-09-13T14:42:00.269-04:002013-09-13T14:42:00.269-04:00Grayson is a slightly less wacky Dennis Kucinich.
...Grayson is a slightly less wacky Dennis Kucinich.<br /><br />I like a lot of what he says, but he grandstands a bit too much for my taste.<br /><br />And usually I like Bill Scher, but I think he's over analyzed this.<br /><br />Democrats are in no danger of becoming the same kind of isolationist party that the Republicans were between the two World Wars. Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-42136941408458908622013-09-13T14:38:56.366-04:002013-09-13T14:38:56.366-04:00Ah, forget it, it's Bill Scher. The only place...Ah, forget it, it's Bill Scher. The only place I've ever become aware of his existence is his weekly appearance as an Alan Colmes-esque doormat on the Bloggingheads podcast, where each week he would, in true emulation of the Master of the craft, appear limply unlikeable while failing to remotely <i>try</i> to counter the disingenuous talking points of his smug interlocutor. He was so clearly auditioning for a gig as a Fox News Liberal it wasn't even funny.Warren Terrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00107628114662676334noreply@blogger.com