tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post672481855734629867..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-67964153814737117182012-07-14T12:09:04.712-04:002012-07-14T12:09:04.712-04:00I'm going to keep repeating it: I think that a...I'm going to keep repeating it: I think that as long as he can keep saying that he was only <i>listed</i> as the head guy on paper, but wasn't really the head guy, an awful lot of people will see that as plausible. I know I'm pretty much the only lefty in America who believes that, but there it is.<br /><br />Show him <i>doing</i> something after '99 and it's a different story.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-66149580918359954472012-07-13T17:42:50.029-04:002012-07-13T17:42:50.029-04:00Also, too, the other items in this Steve Benen pos...Also, too, the other items in this Steve Benen post:<br /><br />http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/13/12727677-romneys-bain-story-unraveling-quicklyPeter Janovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07590229306105292675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-80759265473169768052012-07-13T17:32:36.784-04:002012-07-13T17:32:36.784-04:00OK. How about this:
one 2000 document filed by R...OK. How about this:<br /><br />one 2000 document filed by Romney could prove particularly difficult to explain away. Among other things the Jan. 3 2000 SEC filing says, “W. Mitt Romney is principally engaged in the business of serving as sole stockholder of BCI VI, Inc. (Bain Capital Investors VI)” — and it contains his signature.Peter Janovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07590229306105292675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-25582696354358838632012-07-13T10:26:18.569-04:002012-07-13T10:26:18.569-04:00I'm just going to keep saying what I'm say...I'm just going to keep saying what I'm saying: signing a document that's technically inaccurate is not going to be regarded as horrifying by anyone who's not already anti-Romney -- unless we see him <i>actually making business decisions</i> in the period when he said he wasn't active in the business.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-84754163686643074212012-07-13T09:39:20.242-04:002012-07-13T09:39:20.242-04:00I'm at work and can't retrace my blog step...I'm at work and can't retrace my blog steps, but via David Corn at M Jones, LGM and others: Romney signed contradictory documents with the SEC and the FEC, so we know he lied to at least one agency. He also took salary from Bain during the time he supposedly had cut his ties with them, and worked out a back-dated separation agreement years later. So there's a whole lot of sleazy rich guy double-dealing going on. Even if he manages to skate by on some pretty thin ice of legality, he looks like a sleazy, double-dealing rich guy. I don't think he's going to get a pass on this from anyone but the true Republican believers.Rugosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04348056243298249939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-58461915789116509612012-07-13T06:09:32.497-04:002012-07-13T06:09:32.497-04:00Maybe the right laid the groundword with Obama - t...Maybe the right laid the groundword with Obama - two things in one:<br />Obama is Fascist Dictator - and a simpering pussy who bows to royalty.<br /><br />So, why can't Mitt be, the competent SuperCEO, and Joe Citizen who forgot to file some papers?<br /><br />I think the MSM will find some way to play along.<br /><br />They have to provide cover for Mitt - they want and need a close horserace to the end. <br /><br />If the have to whip one horse, while tripping-up the other one, well, that's a small price to pay for the billions that will be spent on this race in the MSM.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-54480092329600240172012-07-13T04:12:25.842-04:002012-07-13T04:12:25.842-04:00HuffHo Says that Mittbot testified he came back fo...HuffHo Says that Mittbot testified he came back for a few board meetings or something to which he was trying to get on the Ballot for Gov. He was a Boardmember of Lifelike; one of those Partnerships done during his disappear time.<br /><br />It doesn't really matter anyhow as David Corn has one jobs to China that started in 1998. Can't wait to see what the EXCUSE is???cat48Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02801511157080416104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-74864214919340035072012-07-12T23:31:48.694-04:002012-07-12T23:31:48.694-04:00But what does mean something to the average Americ...But what does mean something to the average American: "CEO". Sole shareholder. Everything else is transparent bullshit, even if it happens to be (in some sense) true.Tom Hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17575511424823512042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-43123474883878166522012-07-12T23:01:08.178-04:002012-07-12T23:01:08.178-04:00No, no, no -- active involvement. Like doing stuf...No, no, no -- <i>active</i> involvement. Like <i>doing</i> stuff. There's scant evidence of that. His name on a bunch of filings doesn't mean much to the average American.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-63946194388909738862012-07-12T19:53:58.950-04:002012-07-12T19:53:58.950-04:00"only if we never find documentary proof of h..."only if we never find documentary proof of his active involvement in Bain after 1999."<br /><br />We have all the documentary proof we need, right here, Steve. The SEC documents say that Romney was sole shareholder. That means that he had fiduciary duty toward all investors in Bain Capital. Fiduciary duty implies that he owed utmost good faith to the investors and was required to do due diligence to all its material decisions.<br /><br />If this was a small company and Romney was unsophisticated, he might get away with saying, ahh, buncha legalese. But Romney is a Harvard Law grad and had been in this stuff for decades. He well knew what his duty was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-44537879329045264222012-07-12T19:51:09.501-04:002012-07-12T19:51:09.501-04:00I don't know. I think the gap between CEO/sole...I don't know. I think the gap between CEO/sole shareholder and "no involvement" is so huge as to render Romney's version laughable even if it happens to be factually accurate. <br /><br />Also: every day this is an issue at all is another day that people are reminded of the <i>reasons</i> it's an issue (outsourcing, plundered corporations, Stericycle). <br /><br />Also, too, I think he just looks weasely here. And given the image of Mitt Romney that's already forming, he really can't afford to reinforce it by coming off as weasely in some new context.Tom Hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17575511424823512042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-88612437272728983582012-07-12T19:14:35.340-04:002012-07-12T19:14:35.340-04:00Let me see if I got this straight. Romney is a fi...Let me see if I got this straight. Romney is a financial genius who knows how to read a balance sheet, but never looks his multi-billion dollar portfolio, or if he knows what is being done with his money, he simply has no responsibility for it. Would that standard hold if Bain invested in the narco-trade?Danphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368147966029831819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-71462404712404169892012-07-12T19:14:10.663-04:002012-07-12T19:14:10.663-04:00Not saying anyone's going to like Romney for t...Not saying anyone's going to <i>like</i> Romney for this, but I think he'll get a pass from a lot of people.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-11539218036859995792012-07-12T19:13:05.076-04:002012-07-12T19:13:05.076-04:00Well, Clinton survived impeachment and spent most ...Well, Clinton survived impeachment and spent most of his second term as a very popular president, and that popularity persists to this day.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-89503573858003436462012-07-12T18:46:12.076-04:002012-07-12T18:46:12.076-04:00If it were a question of whether Romney were in an...If it were a question of whether Romney were in any legal jeopardy because of this story I would agree with you. But politics operates by different rules.<br /><br />Consider this: Romney's main defense in this story is to say that he was only "technically" the head of Bain. In other words, Romney's is defending himself with legalistic quibbling.<br /><br />Ask Bill Clinton how well that works.Chris Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139817527808942227noreply@blogger.com