tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post4396982967356483764..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: THE RIGHT-WING PROPAGANDA MACHINE IS NOT A CLOWN CARSteve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-62946060293274682592015-07-31T12:19:56.132-04:002015-07-31T12:19:56.132-04:00Who cares? What America DOES NOT need another Clin...Who cares? What America DOES NOT need another Clinton in the oval office! We need bernie Sanders! NO MORE BILLIONAIRES OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES IN OFFICE! #FEELTHEBERNGod (in general)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01908817870954767334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-2251703697253646712015-07-30T20:32:03.346-04:002015-07-30T20:32:03.346-04:00"Its impossible for a woman HRC's age not...<i>"Its impossible for a woman HRC's age not to be 100 percent behind women's rights and Planned Parenthood."</i><br />You're an idiot if you believe that. Lots of women Clinton's age don't support women's rights (as we understand them) and especially Planned Parenthood. You're sooo sure you know that Hillary will do the right thing on this issue when elected. You don't know. Clinton's selling a pig in a poke on this issue and too many others for my comfort. And when I'm finally forced to vote for her at the end of this bullshit 'fest, I'll probably be buying one too. Thanks for replying. I enjoy reading your posts, even in this thread.petrillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17889489779105405703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-81529753311794788862015-07-30T20:00:08.880-04:002015-07-30T20:00:08.880-04:00Why would Clinton care if, in her first term, she ...Why would Clinton care if, in her first term, she was "called a baby killer?" She's been called a whole lot worse and she's still fighting. You are an idiot if you think that what happens before the election tells you anything about what happens after the election. Obama's mistakes are Obama's mistakes. HRC has been aware of the reach and power of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy for a long, long, time. I don' tthink she'll make Obama's mistake on that topic.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-16107883331018453022015-07-30T18:23:18.840-04:002015-07-30T18:23:18.840-04:00Yeah, I understand what the post is about and I do...Yeah, I understand what the post is about and I don't give a shit if the target is PP or Hillary. Yes, the Planned Parenthood hatchet job plan's been in the works a long time and is timed to damage her. I get that. And I made clear that I expect Obama to defend PP while he's in office. Something he failed to do for ACORN during his first term. Now it's gone; and that fact has had real consequences. You have faith that Clinton will put her ass on the line for Planned Parenthood during her first term and risk being called a baby killer. Bravo for you, I don't. I think she would run away if she could get away with it. Like she's running now. I hope she stops running and starts fighting clear and out loud for what you claim she believes.petrillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17889489779105405703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-38541300766637878962015-07-30T17:40:33.448-04:002015-07-30T17:40:33.448-04:00Oh for fuck's sake--PP supporters ARE HRC supp...Oh for fuck's sake--PP supporters ARE HRC supporters. Who the fuck do you think funds PP except older white women who are democrats? All of this is happening under Obama--its up to him and the Dems in DC to fight this. HRC is nothing but the TARGET of this attack, not the focus of political organizing. Did you not grasp what SteveM just wrote? You really plan to help the RNC ratfuck the potential Democratic Nominee as not pro-woman enough? SM damned Head at how stupid supposed democratic voters are if this is the way they are planning on handling themselves through this next election cycle.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-53001038130465918582015-07-30T16:34:25.490-04:002015-07-30T16:34:25.490-04:00I have to say that I think it's reasonable for...I have to say that I think it's reasonable for Planned Parenthood supporters to flush Clinton out on this. Right now, I'm confident that Obama would veto any bill to unfund. I'm pretty sure Clinton would do the same under <i>most</i> circumstances. Not 100% sure. ACORN no longer exists now in part because of Democrats who <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/House_votes_to_block_ACORN_funding.html" rel="nofollow">voted</a> to block doing business with it, no doubt for political, not ideological reasons. IMO, Clinton is absolutely not above doing the same. Clinton needs to unambiguously get behind not just choice, but Planned Parenthood right now. It's all hands on deck. That means Hillary too. Planned parenthood <i>IS</i> choice. And Like ACORN, it may not survive into the next presidency.petrillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17889489779105405703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-64276691469051853952015-07-30T16:13:08.921-04:002015-07-30T16:13:08.921-04:00^^^^^ What aimai said!^^^^^ What aimai said!Never Ben Betterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17814767173601107270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-47600252323311646902015-07-30T15:10:21.620-04:002015-07-30T15:10:21.620-04:00I am not laughing and I don't think this is a ...I am not laughing and I don't think this is a joke. But can we please, please, please--and I'm looking at you Professor Chaos--stop acting like HRC is responsible for the fact that there are a shitload of regressive voters in this country. Its impossible for a woman HRC's age not to be 100 percent behind women's rights and Planned Parenthood. She always has been and she always will be. She's *also* faced with the problem of how to win the election. She may make good calculations as to tactics or she may make bad ones but fuck you for accusing her for "never standing strong for any progressive group or ideal." She is *incredibly* well known internationally as a champion of women's rights, and in this country too. Who she pursues as a voter in order to get into the presidency tells you nothing about her ideals or her willingness to fight for them. You've got to make it into the presidency in order to be president. Grandstanding to please one constituency or another, if it leads you to be unable to actually get into power to help them, gets you nowhere.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-75833723121813966872015-07-30T11:23:17.866-04:002015-07-30T11:23:17.866-04:00HRC, like her husband, will never stand strong for...HRC, like her husband, will never stand strong for any progressive group or ideal. Always pursuing the mythical "centrist" voting bloc.Professor Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07983291640844939759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-36443593994753245752015-07-30T11:17:47.366-04:002015-07-30T11:17:47.366-04:00"I think this was intended as a hit on Hillar..."I think this was intended as a hit on Hillary. And I think it might be working" Apparently, Hillary thinks so too.Nanutehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18059752215930624689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-43418046912168091262015-07-30T10:25:00.309-04:002015-07-30T10:25:00.309-04:00He's now claiming to be "pro-life" (...He's now claiming to be "pro-life" (YouTube from CNN <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xEeIRfrpCY" rel="nofollow">here</a>). Exceptions he gives are rape and incest (which he can get away with) and health of the mother -- which could get him in trouble on the right, because the right sees that as a huge loophole. But someone might explain to him that he can get away with saying "<i>life</i> of the mother," in which case he'll start saying that.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-85583341155207663542015-07-30T10:08:32.696-04:002015-07-30T10:08:32.696-04:00She needs to be completely and scornfully dismissi...She needs to be completely and scornfully dismissive of all of this. All the Democrats, seated and running, need to trust that the truth will set them free.tony in san diegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17610599999844228511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-45848146638580939232015-07-30T09:48:56.071-04:002015-07-30T09:48:56.071-04:00It's going to be interesting to see how Trump ...It's going to be interesting to see how Trump responds to the PP videos and what the impact is to him. If his history is any indication, he is a libertine and, no doubt, reflexively pro-choice. He also has a tendency towards not shaping his messages -- like most grossly rich guys, he doesn't really care what you think about what he thinks. To my knowledge, he hasn't really responded publicly to the videos to date.<br /><br />My guess is he'll express concern about the tone of the videos; he'll also be concerned about whether PP is obeying the law. But I don't think he'll decry abortion, per se. And that may be the death knell for Trump, though I think he'll have a small share of the vote as long as he wants to throw money at a campaign. President Trump would not be a dependable ally in the fight to overturn Roe. I think that will become apparent soon and will stall any forward progress for Trump.<br /><br />If I'm as right about this guess RE: Trump/abortion as I have been to date, he will declare himself pro-life at the debate next week and promise a pro-life litmus test for all SCOTUS nominees. I guess what I'm saying is, he has been a surprise to this point and maybe he'll surprise on the abortion issue as well. If he finds a way through the abortion minefield, he may actually have a shot at the nomination. mlbxxxxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05931351723996391533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-35424967571656347052015-07-30T09:23:29.002-04:002015-07-30T09:23:29.002-04:00Of course it's working. This crap always work...Of course it's working. This crap always works because most of us have a reflex to get along, not a reflex to poke the next guy in the eye with a stick. Unfortunately, this tends to be a problem when one group of people who want power are willing to do damn near anything to take it. I think that's the main reason Bernie Sanders is unexpectedly doing so well. He's standing up to this crap. And here we thought Clinton might do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-86981900468998237872015-07-30T09:08:27.743-04:002015-07-30T09:08:27.743-04:00HRC needs to stand her ground!
She hasn't been...HRC needs to stand her ground!<br />She hasn't been elected POTUS yet, and already she's "triangulating!"<br /><br />At the 2012 Democratic National Convention, the party stood tall and proud for a woman's right to choose!<br /><br />I like her, and will vote for her if she's our candidate, but I prefer candidates who don't wilt at the first Reich-Wing attempts at fake umbrage over some issue.<br /><br />Not only do "Black Lives Matter," but women's lives matter, too!Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.com