tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post4031003555898007289..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: A TRUMP-SANDERS DEBATE WOULD NOT BE A DEBATE (updated)Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-21679728078030765272016-05-26T22:35:05.560-04:002016-05-26T22:35:05.560-04:00#1 There is no such thing yet that can be called a...<br />#1 There is no such thing yet that can be called an authentic debate with Trump at a podium.<br />#2 In the high pitch of Fury and Fear over Trump HRC folk are generating they should be crying: "All hands on deck." Bernie knows the danger of a Trump better than HRC & he isn't a personal friend of Trump in the first place. <br />#3 A tag team of Bernie & HRC against Trump would be great to watch and a Gift to the Nation. HRC is egotistical to think she can do it by herself & get the votes in Nov. HRC cannot see Bernie as anything but an "outsider". It's a very unhealthy & dangerous mindset both to the supposed "big tent party" and the American culture. Pallihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610910291627363042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-90868863913411549602016-05-26T20:07:07.376-04:002016-05-26T20:07:07.376-04:00"So we'll see."
Only if you take Su..."So we'll see."<br /><br />Only if you take Sue's advice on the Fusion TV Bern-Don America debate series.<br /><br />Here's a link to the latest: http://fusion.net/video/303660/trump-vs-bernie-shout-the-vote-chris-matthews-rachel-maddow/<br /><br />Drumpt's only gonna do this if he's assured of a way to dominate. So Drumpf is going to tease this out for however long it takes to see if he can get that assurance.<br /><br /><br />Increasingly, I'm seeing Bernie as less of a foolish idealistic naif than variation on the same demagoguery that's put Drumpf in as the GOP nominee.Feud Turgidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379322096770703017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-56584371332308278442016-05-26T20:06:35.623-04:002016-05-26T20:06:35.623-04:00Something for the Donald to do while waiting for H...Something for the Donald to do while waiting for Hillary-Godot!<br />Play cat & mouse with Bernie....Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00863234038530540216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-16912290412078047482016-05-26T13:22:01.250-04:002016-05-26T13:22:01.250-04:00Add to agenda regarding Democratic Rules: "An...Add to agenda regarding Democratic Rules: "Any candidate who is not the nominee, and who debates a candidate from an opposing Party, shall forfeit all his/her pledged delegates and any claim to the nomination. Any candidate who is not the nominee who engages in such a debate may not be the Democratic nominee."<br /><br />Okay, sure it could be worded better, but you get the point. No one who is not yet the nominee should be debating a Republican opponent prior to the convention. He should not be representing the party if he has not secured the nomination. His positions will not necessarily be the final platform's positions (in fact, you can pretty much guarantee there will be differences). He hasn't yet earned the right to represent the party. And he will undercut the party's chances of success in the general.jsrthetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09471258641340325875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-13249202338165622462016-05-26T12:55:15.247-04:002016-05-26T12:55:15.247-04:00For those hungry for a Trump vs. Sanders debate, t...For those hungry for a Trump vs. Sanders debate, try to catch the fake debates on Fusion TV.<br />The two actors/impressionists playing Trump and Sanders are astonishing and the writing is hilarious.Sweet Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06356702664203685197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-62991474302665243122016-05-26T12:08:22.799-04:002016-05-26T12:08:22.799-04:00Trump punk'd Bernie. "Never mess with a p...Trump punk'd Bernie. "Never mess with a pro, Buddy."CF2Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356803878079373480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-11705653509635870482016-05-26T11:46:25.836-04:002016-05-26T11:46:25.836-04:00I don't see a downside to a Bernie/Trump debat...I don't see a downside to a Bernie/Trump debate. I don't think Bernie will let Trump patronize him. I think Bernie will try to destroy Trump as he'll see it as his chance to prove to the super delegates that he's got the right stuff. If he comes out of it polling strong against Trump, I don't think it'll be a mortal blow for HRC but it makes Trump look like a chump. If he comes out weak against Trump, it underscores why we need HRC at the top of the ticket. At worst it's an entertaining sideshow.<br /><br />I hope they go for it.mlbxxxxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05931351723996391533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-42079532569670739102016-05-26T11:17:27.149-04:002016-05-26T11:17:27.149-04:00Bernie has already called Trump a pathological lia...Bernie has already called Trump a pathological liar. I would expect him to blast Trump some more.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977868106173983411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-59284767528167222132016-05-26T10:34:09.249-04:002016-05-26T10:34:09.249-04:00Bernie has demonstrated pretty clearly that he is ...Bernie has demonstrated pretty clearly that he is neither a rational nor strategic thinker. His current adversary is HRC, and I say Bernie is out to take her down. So - Bernie and Donald for the anti-Hillary tag-team.<br /><br />I expect this will hurt Bernie more than it helps him, but like I say, this is not a rational or strategic player.Charon04https://www.blogger.com/profile/02755362669687773097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-62008964319346365422016-05-26T10:19:17.500-04:002016-05-26T10:19:17.500-04:00I'll give you this one, with the caveat that w...I'll give you this one, with the caveat that were Clinton to share the stage with Trump neither would that be a debate. Folks that have been around here longer than a couple of months know that while I won't vote for her I'm not at all unwilling to grant the benefit of doubt, or acknowledge her skills set. Be careful what you wish for.Ten Bearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594307610015584119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-7052255227646156082016-05-26T10:07:04.374-04:002016-05-26T10:07:04.374-04:00bernie is losing - he is behind right now in the d...bernie is losing - he is behind right now in the delegate count - he wants a revolution or a rebellion - he is suing pple left and right - he doesnt care abt the " good of the country" - it is about his ego and that is it. He is giving out lots of mixed messages tbh - right now he has forgotten that he is supposed to be a democrat - what kind of candidate will reject the will of voters who have chosen hillary over him. Nah bernie just wants to make a mess like nader and act as a spoilernorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08561798367985482492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-69601935721317503902016-05-26T09:53:12.572-04:002016-05-26T09:53:12.572-04:00I don't see a downside to this. Sanders can mo...I don't see a downside to this. Sanders can more than handle Trump and a weighted Fox panel. But if he performs badly, Clinton wins. If he lands a solid hit on Trump, Clinton wins. If Trump and Sander's double team Clinton on populist and defense issues, Clinton will be more tightly tethered to progressive issues in the general and we win.petrillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17889489779105405703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-59331483983040812282016-05-26T09:39:12.762-04:002016-05-26T09:39:12.762-04:00I think Victor has a point. Trump's debate per...I think Victor has a point. Trump's debate performances have been in a different universe graded by feces-eating hateful morons (Republican primary voters) and his debate opponents have been idiots and cowards. Bernie will not have the hangups that they had in pointing out Trump's hypocrisies or in calling him a bigot to his face. Indeed, he will have a huge incentive to do so.<br /><br />If you suspend the disbelief and buy into the idea that Bernie still has a chance at winning the Democratic nomination, Bernie <i>has</i> to take Trump down a peg (or two or three) in this debate. Trump has to leave the debate fuming, preferably early. That means Bernie's going to have to be prepared to go for the jugular and make Trump lose his shit (knowing Trump's thin skin and infinite liabilities, this should be doable). At this point, I've been disappointed in how Bernie has run the latter part of his campaign, so I'm not making a prediction. But there's at least some reason to hope it won't be a disaster - and it may even be the opening shot of bringing the Democratic Party together as it gives Bernie a chance to demonstrate just how odious Trump is and how, while Clinton may not be great, she's worlds better than Trump.<br /><br />Here's hoping...sdhayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02354409528975596405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-46947938675238795742016-05-26T09:36:23.870-04:002016-05-26T09:36:23.870-04:00Once challenged,Trump will respond the way he alwa...Once challenged,Trump will respond the way he always does. Can't help it. And Sanders is nothing if not an aggressive challenger of HIS opponents.AllieGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994768860067988405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-63756751259905744172016-05-26T09:02:42.853-04:002016-05-26T09:02:42.853-04:00Bernie knows a lot of shit.
tRUMP don't know s...Bernie knows a lot of shit.<br />tRUMP don't know shit.<br /><br />Played right, Bernie can run circles around tRUMP - if he decides to. And that's the question.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-44548097625157863342016-05-26T08:36:26.184-04:002016-05-26T08:36:26.184-04:00You might be right. But I'm not sure we can as...You might be right. But I'm not sure we can assume Bernie is such a chump. I think Sanders is just as likely to turn on Trump & defend -- if not Hillary -- democracy over Trumpian totalitarianism. Played right, a debate with Trump could cement Bernie's status as an all-American hero. Played in Cornel West fashion, Bernie would expose himself as an unstable crackpot. Either way, a Sanders-Trump debate would help Clinton. marieburnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05551898556011521804noreply@blogger.com