tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post1141107630846093206..comments2023-10-24T09:06:30.200-04:00Comments on No More Mister Nice Blog: Steve M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-79523139604521802572014-05-14T21:19:06.913-04:002014-05-14T21:19:06.913-04:00Did everyone miss the 'evolution' is stron...Did everyone miss the 'evolution' is stronger than 'morality' bit? How about the comment that Krypton's outposts and Krypton itself died because of planned population control? But then again, they also dis the Kochtopus so many times as well...mining the core of Krypton destroying it, the greed for energy extraction...and the ships certainly had octopus qualities...so...pro christian symbolism, morality...but also anti corporate and military (the take down of the surveillance drone) and globalism. Mixed messages which remind me much of christian survivalists...save the earth and all of creation.lostinthewoodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06638690912925773954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-15188054793117827072013-06-17T18:33:14.788-04:002013-06-17T18:33:14.788-04:00If Superman was Jewish, his name would have been S...<i> If Superman was Jewish, his name would have been Superstein or maybe Superwitz, or something.</i><br /><br />His name, Oh Great Thinker Of Our Time, was "Kal-El".<br /><br />To quote the wikipedia:<br /><br />"Because Siegel and Shuster were both Jewish, some religious commentators and pop-culture scholars such as Rabbi Simcha Weinstein and British novelist Howard Jacobson suggest that Superman's creation was partly influenced by Moses,[50][51] and other Jewish elements. More recently, this interpretation has been endorsed by biographer Larry Tye.[52] For example, Superman's Kryptonian name, "Kal-El", resembles the Hebrew words קל-אל, which can be taken to mean "voice of God".[53] The suffix "el", meaning "(of) God," is also found in the name of angels (e.g. Gabriel, Ariel), who are flying humanoid agents of good with superhuman powers. Tye suggests that this "Voice of God" is an allusion to Moses' role as a prophet.[52] Moreover, Kal-El's parents send him away in a vessel, delivering him to new adoptive parents in an alien culture in order to save him from impending doom, just as Moses' parents do.[52] "The narratives of Krypton's birth and death borrowed the language of Genesis."[52]""Phoenicianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04211507669622120640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-92214254955966167082013-06-17T16:56:24.892-04:002013-06-17T16:56:24.892-04:00"Aimai makes a very good point about the attr..."Aimai makes a very good point about the attraction to heroic father figures and stasis."<br /><br />Yes, my life has been one long fruitless quest for stasis-symbols.<br /><br />Mooserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12294208692136002450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-21017817704068535502013-06-17T16:52:33.896-04:002013-06-17T16:52:33.896-04:00Nope, can't buy it. If Superman was Jewish, h... Nope, can't buy it. If Superman was Jewish, his name would have been Superstein or maybe Superwitz, or something.Mooserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12294208692136002450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-23391943830342784462013-06-17T16:49:25.939-04:002013-06-17T16:49:25.939-04:00"Yes, the original Superman was written by a ...<i>"Yes, the original Superman was written by a Jew and inspired by Jewish issues in identity and fear."</i><br /><br />You are not getting "Superman" mixed up with "The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show"? Or did they both deal with the same issues? Mooserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12294208692136002450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-36178098894667883812013-06-16T18:18:32.090-04:002013-06-16T18:18:32.090-04:00I didn't! I thought the original Superman was ...<i>I didn't! I thought the original Superman was Jewish, not in a Jews-for-Jesus way, but anti-fascist.</i><br /><br />The original Superman, as Grant Morrison points out, started off fighting war profiteers, corrupt senators,and wife-beaters. <br /><br />Siegel and Shuster crafted an all-American everyman persona hiding a powerful and admired immigrant with a Jewish-derived name. "Clark Kent" is as American as you can get (for 1933) - but "Kal-El" is a sort-of-Hebrew name. Pretty nifty, when you think about it.Phoenicianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04211507669622120640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-86602993216563671252013-06-16T14:15:45.438-04:002013-06-16T14:15:45.438-04:00Hilarious as this is being heavily marketed at gay...Hilarious as this is being heavily marketed at gays as Cavill is such a stud. The three leads were on UK TV Friday with a gay talk show host selling it. Shirtless pics, 'cor look at Cavill', gay, gay, gay , gay ...paulocanninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499916652508144662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-13778474890681585582013-06-16T12:48:54.695-04:002013-06-16T12:48:54.695-04:00They draw the viewer's attention to the (suppo...<i>They draw the viewer's attention to the (supposedly) much maligned father-as-leader. I thought the most interesting thing was the transmutation of the phrase "speak truth to power" into the extremely significant "speak truth to those who need to hear it."</i><br />That's the important point. I get it about Adonis (and Osiris/Dionysus etc). But the myth is always interpreted in a contemporary ideological light as well. And when they appropriate it in order to turn it upside down it's a perversion. I'm glad they didn't notice Jor-El is dead! Happy Father's Day.Yastreblyanskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335868257729063363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-68532870234841637062013-06-16T11:44:11.650-04:002013-06-16T11:44:11.650-04:00Even hamlet can be christ, if you squint.Even hamlet can be christ, if you squint.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-91371224885418175092013-06-16T11:09:49.165-04:002013-06-16T11:09:49.165-04:00So the fact that The Lion King is 85% Hamlet, the ...So the fact that The Lion King is 85% Hamlet, the Musical doesn't register with them...<br /><br />Isn't Superman more like Moses anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-48766011852554996412013-06-16T11:09:13.922-04:002013-06-16T11:09:13.922-04:00Christians have money and are easily fooled. Why n...Christians have money and are easily fooled. Why not get in on fine grifter cash?Tbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09507955891239541546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-58959792972705720752013-06-16T10:40:35.906-04:002013-06-16T10:40:35.906-04:00By this guy's analysis, I guess The Lion King ...<i>By this guy's analysis, I guess The Lion King is totally Jesus too.</i><br /><br />Christians seem to <a href="http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/The-Lion-King.html" rel="nofollow">think so.</a><br /><br />Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-53358062112461734652013-06-16T06:37:25.817-04:002013-06-16T06:37:25.817-04:00Ah, that explains this:
Their Superman, played by ...Ah, <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/15/man-of-steel-is-fun-to-watch-but-it-s-still-a-failure-here-s-why.html" rel="nofollow">that explains</a> this:<br /><i>Their Superman, played by Brit Henry Cavill, is more brooding than bumbling, a far cry from Christopher Reeve. He spends a lot of screen time immaculately groomed, posing like Christ, and pondering why he’s alone in the universe.</i>M. Bouffanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04519088858760760560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-2005246706563661242013-06-15T23:56:50.471-04:002013-06-15T23:56:50.471-04:00Well, he's the successful Jesus who doesn'...Well, he's the successful Jesus who doesn't die that the fundies have been wanting.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-59717003650074191952013-06-15T20:07:44.949-04:002013-06-15T20:07:44.949-04:00If Superman is Jesus, shouldn't he, like, die?...If Superman is Jesus, shouldn't he, like, die?<br /><br />By this guy's analysis, I guess The Lion King is totally Jesus too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-52267253395483415672013-06-15T19:40:28.574-04:002013-06-15T19:40:28.574-04:00Hercules, Moses, David, Jesus, King Arthur, Luke S...Hercules, Moses, David, Jesus, King Arthur, Luke Skywalker, Harry Potter...<br /><br />Aimai makes a very good point about the attraction to heroic father figures and stasis.Lance Mannionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063296489181466628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-23590716886777298722013-06-15T19:18:40.423-04:002013-06-15T19:18:40.423-04:00I don't suppose it's ever occurred to thes...I don't suppose it's ever occurred to these people that liberal Christians might be offended by the pretense that Superman is Jesus.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651455277401911296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-8692401652609872282013-06-15T16:29:46.780-04:002013-06-15T16:29:46.780-04:00http://manofsteelresources.com/
https://fbcdn-sph...http://manofsteelresources.com/<br /><br />https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1009151_10201332139647017_590535241_o.jpgUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09372745583119412742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-78238717944991295892013-06-15T14:36:26.751-04:002013-06-15T14:36:26.751-04:00Yes, the original Superman was written by a Jew an...Yes, the original Superman was written by a Jew and inspired by Jewish issues in identity and fear. I heard a long interview with the guy who just wrote the book on Superman discussing this and the Nazi reaction to the idea of a Jew inspired superman responding to their ideas of a superman.<br /><br />But that doesn't mean that miraculous births and kings who die consenting aren't embedded in the Superman mythos--its more accurate to argue that Jesus himself is an avatar of Adonis and other half human/half divine yearly dying gods. Superman and Jesus, in other words, are both expressions of an earlier myth cycle.<br /><br />What catches my attention in SteveM's piece and its quotes is the way the pro-christian interpretation desperately looks for heroic father figures and stasis, rather than accepting the primacy of Superman (or even Jesus) in his own story. They draw the viewer's attention to the (supposedly) much maligned father-as-leader. I thought the most interesting thing was the transmutation of the phrase "speak truth to power" into the extremely significant "speak truth to those who need to hear it." This is the role Christian dads are assigned: lecturer to the indifferent masses, Cassandras and naysayers and complainers who are ignored by those (women, children, minorities, pagans) who should be taken dictation rather than having their own thoughts.<br /><br />In reality Superman is no different than other child-heroes. The parents always get killed off so the child/bambi can come into his own and have all the adventures. You can't turn the story into the triumph of the fathers without torturing it to death. But they do like torture.aimaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956073425680585780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-5690484567241005212013-06-15T13:59:51.700-04:002013-06-15T13:59:51.700-04:00Superman Has Two Daddies!Superman Has Two Daddies!tony in san diegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17610599999844228511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-66698130542730122082013-06-15T12:55:47.971-04:002013-06-15T12:55:47.971-04:00Most times, if something's not explained to th...Most times, if something's not explained to them, and stamped "Made by Man - Ok's by God and Jesus," American Christian's won't get it on their own.<br /><br />They don't get humor, because a lot of it is "ironical" - due to a severe irony deficiency.<br />And they don't get allegory, unless that's spelled out for them, too.<br />And, as for symbolism, they only get it if it's blatant.<br /><br />And you can't blame the movie studio's if they want to maximize their profits, by wanting to appeal to more than just secular action-adventure/sci-fi fans, by trying to include the Jesus-freaks.<br /><br />Hey, even if it's a lame effort, why not try it?<br />Most of these people have already proven that they'll believe just about anything, as long as the right person tells it to them.<br /><br />So, why shouldn't Hollywood get into trying to fleece the Jesus-grifter's flock?<br /><br />And that'll be easier if the Jesus-grifters get a piece of the action.<br />Do that, and they'll be more than happy to tell their followers what the people with the money want them to hear.<br />The grifters don't really give a sh*t about Heaven and people souls - they don't care about "The Power and the Glory" of God.<br /><br />They only care about 'the power and the money.' <br /><br />So, Yastreblyansky, if you want to go see it, by all means do so.<br /><br />Think of it as helping to grift the Jesus-freaks, by extending their money beyond just tithing to their church - let them tithe to their mortal enemy, Hollywood, and the box-office, too!Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609452382111686086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3856837.post-20359077559616357302013-06-15T12:35:43.195-04:002013-06-15T12:35:43.195-04:00(And um, didn't we all know this about Superma...<i>(And um, didn't we all know this about Superman already?)</i><br />I didn't! I thought the original Superman was Jewish, not in a Jews-for-Jesus way, but anti-fascist. <a href="http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2013/06/superman-deserves-better-man-of-steel.html" rel="nofollow">Chauncey de Vega</a> has also noted the Jesus connection with this Superman, not with enthusiasm. Are you saying that the new S-man is an openly right-wing plant in the garden of American myth? Ugh.Yastreblyanskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335868257729063363noreply@blogger.com